LuPone Issues Response To Showstopping Vegas 'Texting' Incident- Page 9

[FlyingMonkey1223]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:08pm

It's the truth. Sorry if you find that bigoted and offensive.

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:10pm

I'm not an angry person and could really care less about what Patti does

So you do care then? If you could care less, then you have to be caring already.

[humbugfoto]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:18pm

Saw Patti last night in Los Angeles, in her show with Mandy Patinkin. Everything went smoothly, but there were many moments during the show when she would be right at the edge of the stage, staring intently down into the audience. Now, maybe I was overly-sensitive, but it seemed to me like she was looking for something. Actively looking, and not just making eye contact with the audience.

And for what it's worth, there were no cellphone interruptions and I didn't see anyone in my part of the theater (front orchestra) texting or with cellphones on for any other reason. Maybe it was a fluke or maybe LA audiences are better behaved. I don't know (although I tend to believe the former over the latter).

It was a great show, by the way!

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:32pm

I'm not an angry person...middle aged lispy queens...Sorry if you find that bigoted and offensive.

Actually, the more you say, the more you display your real character, the more pity we feel for you.

How could you possibly be this bitter this young? What could life have done to you to make you spew such hate speech? Have you lost friends and family members? had health problems? career setbacks? money problems?

Or have you always been this way?

There was once a thread that discussed that who you are on BroadwayWorld is who you are in real life. If your posts in this and other threads could be a mirror for you, you would hate yourself.

Peace, brother. May you find healing somewhere.

[FlyingMonkey1223]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:37pm

LOL. PalJoey...give me a break. You just reaffirm my views on the majority of the posters here.
Updated On: 6/24/09 at 02:37 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:57pm

It's the truth. Sorry if you find that bigoted and offensive.

It may be your truth, but not that of...well...the majority of audiences and critics, which means logically, it is not the truth. And I don't find the truth to be bigoted and offensive, just your blanketed generalizations based on the opinions you have formed on very little facts (or simply to be contrary out of sport). If you truly believe the praise Patti gets from BWW is from "mostly middle aged lispy queens", then you are either highly delusional or merely unobservant (or both). Unless you have somehow acquired the date of borth of every member of BWW, which would be a magical feat, indeed. No, you used that description...those words...specifically to offend. And the use of them in that manner is inarguably bigoted.

[FlyingMonkey1223]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 3:00pm

You know nothing about me, so how can you accuse me of being a bigot based on my description of the majority of posters and Patti lovers?
Updated On: 6/24/09 at 03:00 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 3:11pm

Because your description of "middle aged lispy queens" is a bigoted (ageist and homophobic) and unsubstantiated description (that means that you have no facts to support your description) which you only used as an inflammatory insult not unlike (though to a lesser degree) Perez Hilton's use of "faggot" in the Will.I.Am debacle.

[FlyingMonkey1223]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 3:38pm

Hey, if you want to live in denial that is fine. But this board is overrun by rude, middle aged lispy queens who insult and degrade people left and right. The second someone calls them on it they hug and puff about "bigotry". You can call me homophobic and ageist all you want, but I'm neither of the two. Seems like I hit the nail on the head with you though Matt.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 3:49pm

Heeth right, Matt. You do type with a litttthp!

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 4:12pm

I think these boards are rife with people using gay slurs all the time, like queen, Mary, homo, queer, etc. I think it is all about the intention behind it. I think there are different rules for different people on these boards that is for sure. Some people get posts deleted and banned for calling an actress fat and ugly and others seem write and post images of some of the most vile things and those seem to fly right by. It's a crapshoot out here.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 4:35pm

It also depends on what actor or actress you are talking about.

[winston89]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 5:00pm

Matt, My friend felt that Patti was having him and the ushers go above and beyond what they usually do. They felt that because she had asked them to go above and beyond what their job was for her personal satisfaction that she could have done it in a nicer way then be bitchy about it. He was saying that if your going to ask someone to go above and beyond then the least you can do is be nice about it. Due to the fact that she wasn't, it turned them off in wanting to help her out. You catch more flies with honey then you do wit vinegar.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 5:18pm

But this board is overrun by rude, middle aged lispy queens who insult and degrade people left and right. The second someone calls them on it they hug and puff about "bigotry".

Actually, the most degradation performed on this board is by younger members trying to be snarky and hip with little knowledge on the subjects at hand. Several of whom have been banned and returned under new names many times (this is actually common knowledge). I'm not living in denial, I've just been a member for twice as long as you. But I will grant you that "hug and puff" is an expression of which I'm not quite familiar.

You can call me homophobic and ageist all you want, but I'm neither of the two.

Then don't act like it. For one who claims they are simply calling people out for what they are, you don't take too well from others performing the same action on you (though with more accuracy for observation).

Seems like I hit the nail on the head with you though Matt.

Based on what? My mannerisms? My lisp? My "hugging and puffing"? Perhaps you could give me lessons in dictation when you are not insulting and degrading people left and right.

But the basic issue is, if you ever actually looked beyond the few targets of your derision and actually noticed the people who have consistently said positive things about Patti as a performer, you would have noticed the overwhelming number of teen-to-thirtysomething members of BWW who have posted about it since the Sweeney Todd revival. Your generalization was baseless from the start. The offensive quality of it is another issue.

Updated On: 6/24/09 at 05:18 PM

[Jane2]

Posted: 6/24/09 at 5:19pm

"No, she is not right. It is true that it is not right for someone to be using an electronic device in the theatre. I am sure it is distracting for those immediately around that individual; however it is far more distracting to the audience to have someone on stage stop the show, that they paid a lot of money to see, so that they can yell at someone in the audience. There are proper channels to go through to solve this problem and she needs to put her diva behavior aside and learn to go through those channels."

What are the proper channels to which you refer? Please, we're dying to hear the proper way to handle this problem.

Yay for Patti and any other performer who is HUMAN and had it "up to here" with this crap.

[Dover]

Posted: 6/27/09 at 3:50am

My feeling on it is that I'd prefer that when in the middle of a "real" show, a performer ignore the disruption that is only visible to them and maybe 10 audience members sitting nearby, instead of disrupting the show for one or two thousand people, most of whom probably would never have otherwise been distracted by it.

However, a concert is a different matter. As far as I'm concerned, if it's the kind of situation in which you're there to see a performer and not trying to suspend your disbelief with following a story, the performer can and should say whatever they want about the matter. If Patti goes off on it for 20 minutes, that's her prerogative. But I wouldn't feel the same way if I were watching Gypsy or something.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 6/27/09 at 7:08pm

Dover, I rather agree with you. I think a concert is a performer's domain and they have broken the 4th wall, so why not. On the other hand, if I was there when she stopped "Rose's Turn" to flip out on an audience I'd be pretty let down.

[Eris0303]

Posted: 6/28/09 at 1:15am

Matt, My friend felt that Patti was having him and the ushers go above and beyond what they usually do. They felt that because she had asked them to go above and beyond what their job was for her personal satisfaction that she could have done it in a nicer way then be bitchy about it. He was saying that if your going to ask someone to go above and beyond then the least you can do is be nice about it. Due to the fact that she wasn't, it turned them off in wanting to help her out. You catch more flies with honey then you do wit vinegar.

So, that's what she did that wasn't nice? By asking them to do something extra? You make it sound like she put their names on the Montgomery-Ward mailing list.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 6/28/09 at 5:12pm

"I am all for strong women, but Patti is an immature brat, and those who have worked with her can confirm this"

Hi, FM1223. Ghostlight here, a real live person who has worked with Ms LuPone twice. She was not only very professional during the run of each show, she was also unfailingly courteous to cast and crew alike, and quite generous, besides. I don't know anyone who has worked with her who would say otherwise. Do this people that you claim to know who supposedly hate her so much exist only in your imagination?

Yes, winston, do pm, Shubert 44 with your very unprofessional friends' names, and me too. I know people who'd love to chat with them about their spiteful behavior. Weren't you the one, btw, who was on a vendetta to get the doorman at the Lunt fired for doing his job? And now you laud your friends for not doing theirs?

eta: Back to FM1223. I am not middle-aged, do not lisp, and am not a queen (I'm also not a LuPone fan), but I am offended by your language. I see you've switched from racism to homophobia. How's that working out for you?


Updated On: 6/28/09 at 05:12 PM

[TatyRox]

Posted: 6/28/09 at 11:16pm

FlyingMonkey1223, what's up with all the hating?
If you really hate Patti so much that you bash her at every chance you get, why do you talk about her and do stuff that involves her? I think you should do something constructive with your time instead of bad-mouthing Patti.

Peace out!

[FlyingMonkey1223]

Posted: 6/29/09 at 1:05am

I am not racist nor homophobic. You guys just take EVERYTHING too seriously. And Patti LuPone is NOT easy to work with. So if you've worked with her and she was nice, considering yourself lucky because most people can't stand working with her.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 6/29/09 at 12:15pm

And Patti LuPone is NOT easy to work with. So if you've worked with her and she was nice, considering yourself lucky because most people can't stand working with her.

Really? You know the majority of the people who have worked with Patti since the beginning of her career? That's amazing since you weren't even born yet!

You guys just take EVERYTHING too seriously.

Considering the amount of hatred you have for Patti, even going so far as to wish her dead, that's a hilariously hypocritical (yet unsurprising) comment from you.

I know everyone who has ever worked with Patti and not one of them has ever complained about her. In fact, they all say she is the most professional performer to grace the Broadway stage and lament the fact that they cannot perform every show with her. And the two chorus boys you claim to know said they never spoke to you about her when signing your Playbill but remember the fit you tossed outside the stage door when Patti didn't have time to sign fourteen Playbills, six posters and twenty-two CDs, plus pose for photos and chat about The Baker's Wife. Everyone knows about that and everyone loves working with Patti. And if anyone knows what everyone thinks, it is me and what I say is irrefutable.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 6/29/09 at 12:39pm

"You guys just take EVERYTHING too seriously".

Yeah, people tend to take this kind of thing:

"Hopefully she follows in the footsteps of Farrah and Michael...the sooner the better".

pretty seriously. That, in case you're wondering, is where you officially entered "attention whore" territory for me.

"And Patti LuPone is NOT easy to work with. So if you've worked with her and she was nice, considering yourself lucky because most people can't stand working with her".

Yeah, I got lucky twice, on two separate shows twenty-five years apart. Now what are the odds of that, since all these fictional people you speak of say otherwise? I have yet to see anyone on this board ever speak from personal knowledge saying they can't stand working with her. Not one. I'd be very happy to work with her again. On top of everything else, she's very funny.

Memo to Mister Matt - this agreeing thing has got to stop. People are starting to talk.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 6/29/09 at 12:56pm

Memo to Mister Matt - this agreeing thing has got to stop. People are starting to talk.

Crap. I agree with that, too.

[DMV2009]

Posted: 7/17/09 at 5:40pm

I was actaully at the show in Las Vegas and have to say that it really wasn't distracting, in fact I would say she got the audience on her side with this. I do hope it doesn't become one of those things where people go hoping she goes off.

I've never worked with Ms. Lupone but back when she was starting that TV show "Life Goes On" she came into the store I worked at in Los Angeles and I have to say she was just lovely. She was sweet, funny and I still remember her one of the kinder celebrities I assisted (and there were a lot of them).