MAYBE HAPPY ENDING Reviews- Page 49

[MezzoDiva47]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 2:52pm

YankeeDani said: "BorisTomashevsky said: "

This is just one endless matryoshka doll."


Shut the **** up you piece of ****. Truly."


good one YankeeDummy

so trying to understand the woke mobs point of view

darren criss is partially asian

but ‘white passing’

which means the overwhelming majority of the theatre attending public dont even know he is asian

including more informed ppl on this board

so replacing him with someone who is white somehow ruins ‘representation’ ?

for a role that is actually a racially non-descript robot

whom the creative team has publicly said was always intended to be any ethnicity

the outrage here is massively disproportionate to the ‘sin’ being committed

which is why the woke mob should get actors equity to officially make a rule in their collective bargaining agreement

‘once an original cast POC lead leaves a show, all white actors are hereby banned from being a replacement’

then we wouldnt need to have this 48 page thread arguing about this issue

 

MezzoDiva47 has spoken

bow down accordingly

 

 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 2:56pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "“so it’s just about noticing when there can be small opportunities - such as this very unusual and specific case - and taking them.”

^And it’s this that is going to keep people dissatisfied and always saying their slice of the birthday cake is smaller. If people/actors “know” that these small opportunitiesare being noticed while casting, being considered and being kept in mind etc, and then they DON’T get the role for a reason other than their “Asian-ness”,they’ll once again scream inequality and “you didn’t take the opportunity!”. Cut and paste, rinse and repeat.
"

Okay, prior to this situation that is going on right now when was the last time you've ever heard of the plights of Asian actors on Broadway? The answer is never. So this "They're never going to be happy!" Is kind of insane when this is the first time you've ever heard it brought up. 

[Kad]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 3:06pm

This pointless, increasingly ugly and unhinged back and forth among a handful of people has been going on for almost a month, spans 30 pages of posts, and has made this thread entirely useless as a discussion of MHE itself.  

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 3:10pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "“the outrage here is massively disproportionate to the ‘sin’ being committed”

Haven’t you heard, Mezzo? If you were unfortunate enough to be born of a white woman’s vagina, the sperm race having been raced and won by a white man’s sperm, you are automatically racist. You’re by definition a right wing, conservative, MAGAt troll even before you’ve thunk your first think.

Disproportion is all some of these people know."

If you're an idiot...

[MezzoDiva47]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 3:18pm

PaigeTurner2 said: "Not sure if this is at all true, but I have seen several different unrelated sourcessaying that Darren is coming back after ABF'snine weeks are up, and that Helen might depart with her boyfriend at that time. I only mention this because I think it adds to the complexity of how they're marketing (or not, as the case may be), Andrew's run amidst this controversy. I think if they had someone else lined up, they mightmention them now to take the heat off their casting of Andrew (presuming the new person was Asian); butif it's Darren, they wouldn't want to say he's returning just yet because then they lose the cachet of these being Darren's "final" weeks. As to Andrew not being promoted, it's pretty clear that unless the producers say he is being replaced, people don't want to hear it. Every single thing MHE posts, related to casting or not, is met with angry comments, so I can see why they're unsure of how to proceed."


omg

ppl

darren criss is not the sell

the best musical tony award winning show is the sell

the overwhelming majority of the theatre going public does not know who darren criss is

they couldnt care less about his replacement

or his return

and they couldnt care less about this artificial ‘controversy’

ticket sales are proving this

why do ppl on a board like this assume u reflect reality

the woke mob is an extremist fringe of our society

they are just incredibly and annoyingly loud

which is why the producers and creative team should simply ignore these perpetually unsatisfied losers

and wait it out until they have moved on to the next house to try and burn down

 

MezzoDiva47 has spoken

bow down accordingly

 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 3:22pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "“Okay, prior to this situation that is going on right now when was the last time you've ever heard of the plights of Asian actors on Broadway? The answer is never. So this "They're never going to be happy!" Is kind of insane when this is the first time you've ever heard it brought up.”

And that’s exactly it. It hasn’t been brought up in the past because generally, IMHO,there was an awareness that Asians were being welcomed in every corner of the Broadway landscape, including center stage.

The fact that there was “nothing brought up” prior to the Andrew situation suggests that the reaction to Andrew, of “we’ve been fighting for so long/I finally felt welcome and now I’m grieving!” etc, is completely manufactured."

This is absolutely not true, there has been a group reporting and discussing diversity on Broadway for literally the last 20 years headed up by the Asian American Performers Action Coalition. And it is SO hilarious for you to say what is and isn't happening in a community that you DO NOT WORK IN and feel like you know more intimately than those that signed this letter and know this situation and know what it is like competing for roles on Broadway. 

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 3:33pm

So if it’s always been such a problem, why hasn’t BD Wong & Co sounded the alarm until now? Too busy having a successful and satisfying TV career? 

And if that’s the problem, I stand by my point. Nothing will ever be enough. Myself and others have asked many times, “what quota will be enough?” And no one has responded. If there’s no end goal in sight for the people decrying the current system, they themselves will never know when to stop. 

[YankeeDani]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 4:13pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "So if it’s always been such a problem, why hasn’t BD Wong & Co sounded the alarm until now? Too busy having a successful and satisfyingTV career?"

 

Once again proving what a deluded troll you are that you didn't even read his statement. You truly live in an imaginary repressed world. 

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 5:12pm

binau said: "Yes I am, at least, specifically referring to...males 
"

So this is a gender thing? There have been tons of Asian leading actors on Broadway, in Phantom, Les Mis, Hamilton, Sunset Boulevard, Wicked, in anything. If the problem is that audiences sexualize males too much, we need to address that issue and not pretend it is about race.

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 5:16pm

Dancingthrulife2 said: "Broadway is representing the NYC population."

So what more do you need? Representation that does not match the country's population AND the NYC population? What's the goal?

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 5:30pm

binau said: "No one here is pretending we know how to solve this"

There is nothing to be solved. You act like it is a problem that certain traits are not sexualized by mainstream audiences. There are tons of other reasons and traits that do or do not fit leading roles better. And yes, it can be debated if men are sexualized too much in general. But the real problem that needs to be discussed here is the fact that it seems allowed to take over roles from white people and the other way around always seems forbidden, even when white people are the minority on Broadway already. 

 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 5:48pm

MezzoDiva47 said: "PaigeTurner2 said: "Not sure if this is at all true, but I have seen several different unrelated sourcessaying that Darren is coming back after ABF'snine weeks are up, and that Helen might depart with her boyfriend at that time. I only mention this because I think it adds to the complexity of how they're marketing (or not, as the case may be), Andrew's run amidst this controversy. I think if they had someone else lined up, they mightmention them now to take the heat off their casting of Andrew (presuming the new person was Asian); butif it's Darren, they wouldn't want to say he's returning just yet because then they lose the cachet of these being Darren's "final" weeks. As to Andrew not being promoted, it's pretty clear that unless the producers say he is being replaced, people don't want to hear it. Every single thing MHE posts, related to casting or not, is met with angry comments, so I can see why they're unsure of how to proceed."


omg

ppl

darren criss is not the sell

the best musical tony award winning show is the sell

the overwhelming majority of the theatre going public does not know who darren criss is

they couldnt care less about his replacement

orhis return

and they couldnt care less about this artificial ‘controversy’

ticket sales are provingthis

why do ppl on a board like this assume u reflect reality

the woke mob is an extremist fringe of our society

they are just incredibly and annoyingly loud

which is why the producers and creative team should simply ignore these perpetually unsatisfied losers

and wait it out until they have moved on to the next house to try and burn down



MezzoDiva47 has spoken

bow down accordingly

"

Get some new material. 

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 5:53pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "Just like how Affirmative Action is often argued to have been completely unsuccessful. If it’s not going to be a case of “we won’t consider one race more than another when we bring actors in to audition”, then it’s completely racist.

“…..would you thensupport the decision?”

The 2024 casting notice is still available online, and Any Ethnicity means Any Ethnicity."

Very well said. This it what it comes down to. Beware of the people that think equality is not a two-way street. Who cast on race because they like to and who think "any ethnicity" means "anything but white". Who consider any race above another in roles where it doesn't matter for the story. Those are the dangerous people who prevent equality.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 5:54pm

Seb28 said: "binau said: "Yes I am, at least, specifically referring to...males
"

So this is a gender thing? There have been tons of Asian leading actors on Broadway, in Phantom, Les Mis, Hamilton, Sunset Boulevard, Wicked, in anything. If the problem is that audiences sexualize males too much, we need to address that issue and not pretend it is about race."

Ali Ewoldt is doing a lot of heavy lifting in Phantom as one of only I think... 3 POC to ever lead in the show on Broadway in 30+ years? And the only Asian lead at all? Took 20 years for there to be an Asian Elphaba (still no Glinda). Sunset is literally just Nicole. Like... the fact that you have a go to handful of shows you can name that have at one point had an Asian lead is kind of saying something don't you think? 

[bear88]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 6:21pm

Kad said: "This pointless, increasingly ugly and unhinged back and forth among a handful of people has been going on for almost a month, spans 30 pages of posts, and has made this thread entirely useless as a discussion of MHE itself."

The block feature has its limits when a small group of people hijack a thread and another small group keeps arguing with them. There is actual news to discuss about the show, and I have chimed in, but this is one of those rare times when I want more aggressive moderation. Hell, at least create a separate thread.

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 6:22pm

TheatreFan4 said: "those that signed this letter and know this situation."

They don't know anything about this situation. The casting notice and role description says "Any ethnicity". Not respecting that is racist.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 6:26pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "those that signed this letter and know this situation."

They don't know anything about this situation. The casting notice and role description says "Any ethnicity". Not respecting that is racist."

That’s great, hun. Now go attempt to learn the meaning of the word “tons”. 

[YankeeDani]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 6:40pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "those that signed this letter and know this situation."

They don't know anything about this situation. The casting notice and role description says "Any ethnicity". Not respecting that is racist."

Hey Seb, notice how you totally ignored TheaterFan's comment when it refutes your illogical mess? This is why no one takes you seriously. 

[YankeeDani]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 6:41pm

Seb and Boris are the type to defend the Japanese american internment camps ("they should be grateful they are even in this country! Look at pearl harbor!) and why segregated bathrooms are ok ("Why should anyone get special privileges over another? The whites are being discriminate against!!!"

 

Can literally copy paste all their arguments onto their long diatribes and you can only laugh. 

"when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

Updated On: 8/18/25 at 06:41 PM

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 6:49pm

YankeeDani said: "Seb and Boris and that Bow Down Poetare the type to defend the Japanese american internment camps ("they should be grateful they are even in this country! Look at pearl harbor!) and why segregated bathrooms are ok ("Why should anyone get special privileges over another? The whites are being discriminate against!!!"



Can literally copy paste all their arguments onto their long diatribes and you can only laugh



Th bottom line is they are raging** that in their minds POC are getting special treatment.



"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"""

Don’t forget Mezz Diva or whatever her name is, ranting and raving about “the woke mob” in every single post like a lunatic. Yep, now we’ve got a full trifecta of right wing trash on display on a Broadway message board. FUN!!!

Updated On: 8/18/25 at 06:49 PM

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 6:53pm

YankeeDani said: ""when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression""

This is the truth for POC people on Broadway at the moment. They do not want equality. Equality would mean more work for white people, who are the minority on Broadway now.

The whole discussion here is us explaining that they don't want equality and that equality feels like oppression for them. They are now demanding that a role description of "Any ethnicity" does not count for white people. That is evil. 

Also, I am partly Asian. Half of my family is. 

Updated On: 8/18/25 at 06:53 PM

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 7:08pm

Seb28 said: "YankeeDani said: ""when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression""

This is the truth for POC people on Broadway at the moment. They do not want equality. Equality would mean more work for white people, who are the minority on Broadway now.

The whole discussion here is us explaining that they don't want equality and that equality feels like oppression for them. They are now demanding that a role description of "Any ethnicity" does not count for white people. That is evil.

Also, I am partly Asian. Half of my family is."

I keep asking you to provide the statistic to back up this claim and yet... I've yet to see it! You just keep giving anecdotal evidence! 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 7:14pm

Seb28 said: "YankeeDani said: ""when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression""

This is the truth for POC people on Broadway at the moment. They do not want equality. Equality would mean more work for white people, who are the minority on Broadway now.

The whole discussion here is us explaining that they don't want equality and that equality feels like oppression for them. They are now demanding that a role description of "Any ethnicity" does not count for white people. That is evil.

Also, I am partly Asian. Half of my family is."

I have looked up your claim that white people are currently the minority on Broadway. I have not found one single news story to support this. Not one. I have found exactly the opposite, but since you are the one making this asinine claim, PROVE IT. 

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 8:01pm

Look at any cast list of any Broadway show:

https://sunsetblvdbroadway.com/cast-creative/

https://hamiltonmusical.com/new-york/cast/

https://aladdinthemusical.com/cast/

https://lionking.com/cast/

https://deathbecomesher.com/cast/

https://hadestown.com/broadway-cast

https://broadwaygatsby.com/cast

https://chicagothemusical.com/cast/

https://www.broadway.com/shows/hells-kitchen/cast/

https://wickedthemusical.com/cast-creative/

https://www.broadway.com/shows/little-shop-horrors/cast/

https://www.maybehappyending.com/cast-creative/

https://heathersthemusical.com/new-york/cast-and-creative-ny/

https://moulinrougemusical.com/new-york/cast/

[YankeeDani]

Posted: 8/18/25 at 8:15pm

Seb28 said: "Look at any cast list of any Broadway show:

https://sunsetblvdbroadway.com/cast-creative/

https://hamiltonmusical.com/new-york/cast/

https://aladdinthemusical.com/cast/

https://lionking.com/cast/

https://deathbecomesher.com/cast/

https://hadestown.com/broadway-cast

https://broadwaygatsby.com/cast

https://chicagothemusical.com/cast/

https://www.broadway.com/shows/hells-kitchen/cast/

https://wickedthemusical.com/cast-creative/

https://www.broadway.com/shows/little-shop-horrors/cast/

https://www.maybehappyending.com/cast-creative/

https://heathersthemusical.com/new-york/cast-and-creative-ny/

https://moulinrougemusical.com/new-york/cast/"

 

 

you count yourself every member since you're the one spouting bull****