Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
What a shame if the only thing that comes from this thread is that I learn a new word, boriqua. (Though I'm grateful for the lesson.)
Surely theatrenut sees by now why his original post was read the way so many of us read it.
And surely we can all see that despite occasional defensive posturing, theatrenut has tried to say he regrets that his wording was offensive to some.
And furthermore we all ought to understand by now that different cultures/social classes/generations have different conventions for behavior at live performances. And in a diverse society, sometimes differing conventions may collide, distracting some people in the process. Hell, I attended an INXS concert a few years ago with a friend who kept yelling at other spectators to sit down and shut up during the music; he was accustomed to Barbra Streisand concerts. (Nobody paid him the slightest attention; it was really quite funny and had nothing to do with anyone's ethnic background.)
But nobody has violated a divine commandment because he or she follows different customs than I do.
Yes?
Updated On: 3/14/12 at 08:03 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
henrik, as always, your memory puts me to shame! I'm happy if I can remember the names of most of the plays.
please, Gaveston, I had to look that up. I had trouble enough remembering those lines when I was in it!
*Gasps*
I am APPALLED by the behavior of this thread's Latin posters!! How DARE YOU represent my Mexican and Spanish people by referring to us as "Latin" and lumping us with PR's!!!
Estupidos! Que tomen agua de culo!!!!
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Kidding. Obviously.
The people who contributed toward making a part of my trip to London in 2010 more miserable than any Claude-Michel Schonberg musi-cal could, just happened to be white. Me, being the only discernible Hispanic for miles, could have easily settled with the tired notion that poor little brown me was attacked by a bunch of Nazi, white racists, gotten into a fetal position, and framed my race card, and be done with it.
But, instead, I lovingly referred to the sow who laid pork loins and hooves on my knee during a performance of Blood Brothers as a piggly piglet. NOT a white or British portly pig, but just a pig.
Notice I did not say a peep about overweight folks who are not rude and use common sense. Nor am I foolish enough to suggest her insistence on laying ham upon my knee to be an inherently white thing so popular amongst British culture. As a former porker myself, I'd never single out someone over being overweight, not even if they're rude and overweight. The weight part is only there because she used it to torture me and was oblivious to it, which proves a complete lack of common sense and courtesy. Therefore, I shall refer to her as sow.
Not a white, British sow. But just a sow.
And the b*tch who wrapped her claws around my neck after the show is a b*tch. Not a white British b*tch, but just a b*tch.
No offense to b*tches, sows, wildlife that bear hooves, or piggies. How mean of me to liken them to us humans.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
My Oh My, this is the second (or possibly the third) time that you have recounted that tale, repeatedly using the same nearly pornographic porcine phrasing, referring to another human being as an animal. A human being is a human being. Your demurrals that you only refer to your "torturer" (a little dramatic, there, are we?) in such a despicable, dehumanizing way was because she was fat. Using that logic, would you find it ok to refer to a fellow patron of who annoyed you who happened to be of African descent as a monkey? I mean, of course you aren't referring to all black people as monkeys - just the ones that behave like them, right?
It seems you've only shoe-horned your sad tale of woe in this thread so you can tell the same ugly story again. It's almost as if you get off using those words.
You're either trolling or have a pathological issue with overweight people. Possibly both. Either way, its vile, and I suggest you either knock it off or seek help. Preferably both.
Updated On: 3/15/12 at 02:12 AM
And all of the fat ***** ********* can suck my ****.
Ghostlight, I'm sorry you are fat...and sorta rude and over the top. But no worries. Weight Watchers helped me back in 2006. I've gained it all back and will go on the journey again starting Monday. Wish me luck!
No more pork loins for me!!
Btw, sorry you lack basic comprehension skills. It's actually the fourth time I recount the tale. I'm disappointed you have come away taking discrimination as the main idea and "torture" literally. What was your school district?
Oh, and I'm sorry you interpret pork loins as pornographic, which I must say, is kinda sick. Chorizo is a popular Mexican sausage thingo commonly a part of egg dishes. Chorizo is basically ground pork loins (and a bunch of other pig stuff deemed inappropriate in its un-ground form, but it's effing delicious!!) Sorry you read sex into that.
The more you know.
Just catching up with this thread and taz is right...it's the homos who were unbearable on Monday night. There was one sitting next to my friend who made sounds right below dog whistle every time Ricky sang a note.
For what it's worth I didn't notice anyone from the "Latin community" behaving in a way that wasn't appropriate.
I'm going to write a musical based on this thread. In scene one, the heroine, MSNBC reporter Miriam Rado, she of the conspicuous blue eyeshadow, covers a story on the geopolitics of Broadway audience decorum. And sings:
How do you know those homos are homos?
How do you know those homos aren't Latins?
How do you know those Latins are Latins?
How do you know those Latins aren't homos?.... (after all, Ricky is both)
How do you know those Latins aren't Italians?... (after all, Elena is both)
How do you know those Latin Homos aren't Jews.... (or possibly all three)
[she is here joined by a tv crew chorus in four part harmony: ]
Like Moises Kaufman!
Miriam:
You look at me as though I'm naive
You look at me and refuse to believe
That what I am saying is true
I don't say you're racist
But what is the basis?
If you ain't misbehavin'
With all of this ravin'
To ask you I'm cravin'
To go on appearances
By straights and by queerances
Spotting Boriquas and so-called Shaniquas
The shooting from Cellphones, you claim to oppose
The Hooting from Maricones, you shame to suppose
May not really tell you that much
Consider that shiksas have curls
Consider that Kelsey likes girls
And while we are at it
Please give me a break
And consider for once that it's true
As now I will put to my crew
The Crew:
It's true
It's true
Miriam:
Yes, what I am saying is true-ish!
The crew:
It's true-ish
It's true -ish
Miriam:
And what I am saying's not newish
The crew:
Not newish!
Not newish!
All:
For what she is saying
To all of your braying
Is not the least bit untrueish
Is not for a moment that new-ish
Don't forget that Nell Carter was Jewish!
Updated On: 3/15/12 at 11:23 AM
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
This is the fourth time you've told that story, MOM? That I wasn't keeping count doesn't speak to my reading comprehension skills, but rather to the fact that I don't spend a lot of time poring over every post that appears on this site. I wonder why it is that you feel the obsessive need to tell that story over and over?
Anyway, it seems I was right on both counts. You're a troll obsessed with fat people, including yourself. Now I know to no longer feed the troll, especially a fat one that's struggling with self-loathing. In fact, I'll no longer bother to read your posts at all. Good luck with weight watchers - and maybe look into that attention-seeking disorder.
"And all of the fat ***** ********* can suck my ****."
Do I have to be a "fat ***** *********" to suck your "****", Diva, or will a merely plump one do? :)
eta: nice job, Henrik!
Updated On: 3/15/12 at 12:14 PM
My FAVORITE part of this whole thread is watching middle aged white people lecturing others on what is offensive when it comes to racial matters.
It's HILARIOUS!
RobbieJ is clearly bigoted against middle-aged white people. That is so offensive. Dirty gay hippie talk.
Hate them. Hate every last one of them. Round 'em up and burn 'em like Owen and Beru.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
"It seems you've only shoe-horned your sad tale of woe..."
That's sizeist.
"I don't know Orange. I think he said and is taking the hits for it. And probably enjoying the crazy rants that have followed. Watching this explosion has definitely been entertaining."
Exactly Dame. He said it, he said he said it, and is here taking every single hit for it, standing up for his view, and not running away never to be heard from again like so many others.
Not an idiot.
"My FAVORITE part of this whole thread is watching middle aged white people lecturing others on what is offensive when it comes to racial matters.
The saga continues.
Ageism. Check.
Reverse racism. Check.
Let's keep going people?
(ok I'm 1/8th kidding.... or maybe 1/8th serious.... I don't know anymore)
By the way, many of we middle-aged white people have done a great deal to advance civil rights in this country. Many of we middle-aged white people also know what it's like to be discriminated against for a variety of reasons, including, at present, being middle-aged. And there is such a thing as empathy between those experiencing discrimination for reason A and those for reason B.
At least among some people.
Updated On: 3/15/12 at 12:59 PM
haha, sorry everyone but the fat posts are making me laugh. No offense, of course. they just read funny to me although the topic isn't funny. Again, NO OFFENSE! lol. burp!
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
There's no such thing as reverse racism, henrik, but it's not surprising to hear that charge coming from a german.
Mitt Romney has reverse poverty, you know.
^that's a question for another time, Finding Namo. At present, I don't really want to play. In any event, my charge of reverse racism was purely a glib one.
In addition, I'm not German. At all.
My background is Lithuanian and Ukrainian Jewish (why are you assuming I'm German?) as a matter of fact. Being a Lithuanian and Ukrainian Jew, I know something about racism and it going in various and unexpected directions, all of them appalling (whoops, I said I didn't want to play).
And I'm Swedish, a Lutheran divinity student and "profound" in my bww avatar.
thelateorratherlater
H.E.
doesn't anything..... ever end?
Updated On: 3/15/12 at 01:55 PM
Well that theater has spacious seats. In others when fat people sit next to you and their rolls venture to your seat things become quite uncomfortable. You have to time your breathes and your applause with theirs. And the whole evening becomes a fight for the armrest. And a lot of Puerto Rican I know happen to be overweight. No mean insult intended. But my Puerto Ricans love to eat and drink.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
My reply was glib too, henrik. Typical humorless german.
Dame, it's the mofungo.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
"That's sizeist."
True, Namo, not to mention attention-seeking, self-hating fat troll phobicist (in the words of our beloved Chita, it's a word now, okay?). I won't apologize for it. I'll own it. I really don't like attention seeking, self-hating fat trolls.
^ Or as we say in Dusseldorf, Mangu Mit Kraut con Chapulines!
Goes down equally well with Jagermeister, Ripple, Manischewitz or Micheladas!
God, I love Micheladas. You want to get funky with me, serve me a Michelada.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
If I've learned anything from my lesbian sisters in recovery, it's that alcoholism is no joke.
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