Mofongo on Broadway!- Page 5

[theaternut]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 11:36am

"I can't stand people who throw in a a reflexive "no offense" to an offensive or insulting comment and think that gets them off the hook for any backlash. It's passive aggressive and bitchy. Either have the balls to say it and take your hits for it, or don't say anything at all.

The OP is an ignorant asshole. No offense!"

Um.. I said it. Which part was it you didn't think I said? Forgive me if your offended that I meant no offense. That is more of a reflection on you. The hypocrisy on display here is very entertaining to me.

By the way just to clarify; My first edit was just for bad word spacing. I didn't change anything. My second edit about two posts down was because I mentioned the audience was mostly groups of Puerto Ricans and that seemed to be the offensive stone. I don't know why. So I attempted to correct that and apologized for any offense I might have caused. The audience WAS Puerto Rican. I am Puerto Rican as well. And we were all probably there for the same reason. To see Marc Anthony and Ednita Nazario ; two Puerto Rican stars in a musical. The audience was loud, unruly, and to many families with children for my taste. Many times when I have seen theater in Puerto Rico at either Teatro Tapia or Centro De Bellas Artes I have encountered the similar experiences. Evita is being heavily advertised in Puerto Rico to capitalize on our islands Ricky Martin. Package deals are being sold like airfare, two nights in a hotel and tickets to the show. I would like to see the show.. but this time I would like to be able to listen to and enjoy the show. Here in Puerto Rico our theater etiquette is different and I don't like it. I can put up with it when I go see a play here for $20.00 and I know what to expect. But not on Broadway.

A few weeks ago Oprah talked about going to see Tyler Perry in one of his traveling shows. She spent most of the time talking about the behavior of the black audience. She mentioned food baskets, liquor, and the talking back to the actors. To me Caveman was a similar experience on that particular performance I saw.




Updated On: 3/14/12 at 11:36 AM

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 11:45am

I'm far more offended by the continuous disrespect shown to Paul Simon in this thread.

[theaternut]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 11:49am

Ha!

[juggles]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 12:17pm

why were they loud and not behaving; using mobile [cell] phones then? What atrocious inconsideration for others.
Why when there's criticism is the race card always flown in the face. Does that excuse behaviour?
Why oh why does the theatre staff not stop this?

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 4:06pm

Gaveston, I didn't mean that Elizabethan audiences were at that point in history part of a hegemonic nation, I was only referring to the irony...

My bad, then, henrik. I should have known you wouldn't make the historical error I thought you were making.

Yes, indeed, English theater audiences used to be closer to today's English soccer fans: loud, unruly and ready to run amok. No wonder all of Shakespeare's and Marlowe's characters seem to be carrying swords!

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 4:15pm

^Gaveston, you have been wicked!

Perhaps you should be brought out onto the Earl of Lancaster's land, run through with a sword by two Welshmen, and then, beheaded.


Updated On: 3/14/12 at 04:15 PM

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 4:19pm

The audience WAS Puerto Rican. I am Puerto Rican as well. And we were all probably there for the same reason.

Theatrenut, if you had started with your most recent post, I think this would have been a very different thread. Not because you are Puerto Rican yourself, but because you seem to have extensive experience of theatergoing in Puerto Rico as well as Manhattan.

If your argument is that a Puerto Rican tradition of boisterous audiences doesn't meet well with Anglo theater designed for more reverent spectators, then that's a fair complaint and not necessarily a value judgment of either tradition. They are simply oil and water to you (and to others as well, I suspect).

Perhaps something went awry in the editing: while I didn't make any assumptions about you as a person, your original post did seem to imply that bad behavior was somehow an automatic product of being Latino. (And, in fact, changing Puerto Rican to Latino actually made it worse, because, as I'm sure you know better than I, there are great variations in Latino cultures.)

[Iheartchipotle]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 4:22pm

This just in:

In the spirit of its subject matter, the Producers of the sold-out Tupac Shakur musical, "Hit Me With Your Best Shot (or, HMWYBS for Internet theater purists) have announced instructions for future patrons of their show: "There will be two versions of our show. One for the elitist, white crowd, and another for everyone else [read, blacks]. Performances will alternate nightly."

The "Whitie-night" performance, will feature Gucci baggy-recycled-bag pants, gilded elephant handcuffs by Alexis Bitar, ochre and vermillion head-kerchiefs by Diane von Furstenberg, and Y-3 flat billed Fire Island tourista caps.

And the one for the..others. Featuring cracklin' pork rinds, frozen whiskey popsicles in the shape of a pistol, wearable razor blades, and gellified grape Faygo, all available in easily unwrappable (for all you dark-chocolate babies with your big.... fake nails)

A much discussed third option involved audience participation, a la Rocky Horror Picture Show. Says HMWYBS producers, "In our quiet and intimate chamber musical, though, you throw joints instead of rice, blunts instead of hot dogs, condoms instead of toilet paper, and you bring in real guns to shoot instead of water pistols."

The third option was later scrapped due to low interest on behalf of the [blacks]. "It was a delicious concept, but there simply weren't enough of 'em who could scrounge up a pistol for the climax of the show. Additionally, there just wasn't space in the theater district for 700 big black SUV's. We will continue to pursue other options, including free cornrowing during intermission, an actor-audience wig exchange, and a newly redesigned lobby that resembles the inside of a prison."

Hit Me With Your Best Shot, now playing from 4/20/20never at the newly renamed Hot Box Theater, 239 W. 45th Street, New York, NY.

Updated On: 3/14/12 at 04:22 PM

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 4:24pm

Perhaps you should be brought out onto the Earl of Lancaster's land, run through with a sword by two Welshmen, and then, beheaded.

In point of fact, I share a last name with one of Shakespeare's more famous good guys. It is we who do the beheading! "Out, out brief candle", indeed!

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 4:40pm

Gaveston is Hillary Macduff!

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 4:47pm

For white audience members, they pass out complimentary rain ponchos at Bitch Poured Beer in Mah Weave. I thought that was very respectful.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 5:11pm

NO PUEDO CREER QUE UN "HERMANO" BORIQUA EMPEZO UN TEMA TAN OFENSIVO Y RACISTA. NO TIENES VERGUENZA.

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 5:33pm

"NO PUEDO CREER QUE UN "HERMANO" BORIQUA EMPEZO UN TEMA TAN OFENSIVO Y RACISTA. NO TIENES VERGUENZA."

I had the same thought. But I just go ahead as if I believe everyone on the internet; I don't know how to function otherwise.

Has "boriqua" totally replaced "puertorriqueno"? When did that happen? (I've been living on the West Coast for the past 27 years.)

And while I'm asking questions, does John Lequizamo draw large Latino crowds? I've only seen his Broadway shows on HBO and maybe some sound editing is involved, but his audiences seem to behave appropriately.

Updated On: 3/14/12 at 05:33 PM

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 5:34pm

Gaveston is Hillary Macduff!

Thanks, Regi. Now when the theater-loving hackers get me, I'll have you to blame.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 5:50pm

@ Gaveston2: I think the term "Boriqua" has replaced the term "Puertorriqueno". I haven't heard it used in a long time.

And for the record: When I go see EVITA I will be wearing my PRican Jersey, baseball cap and bandana. I will be wit my homies from the "X" and I will sing "Que Bonita Bandera" before the show starts and yell "Weeeeeepaaaaaaa" at the top of my lungs every time my papi Ricky hits the stage.

Oh and I will be munching on some rice 'n beans and chicken at intermission. Just so ya know....

RICANS IN DA HOUUUUUUSEEEE!!!




Updated On: 3/14/12 at 05:50 PM

[theaternut]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:13pm

Carlos,
No tengo verguenza por que yo se quien yo soy. Para decirte la verdad me importa tres carajos lo que los comemierdas aqui piensan.

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:28pm

Thanks, Carlos. Not that I encounter many Boriquas in California, but if the need arises, I'll know what term to use. (I'm quite familiar with the history of the term Chicano, so I know why vocabulary choices make a difference.)

ETA and BTW, the "u" is silent, yes? Updated On: 3/14/12 at 07:28 PM

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:31pm

Um.. I said it. Which part was it you didn't think I said?

As I said, and you quoted, "Either have the balls to say it and take your hits for it". Saying "no offense" means people aren't allowed to be offended, and coming back to whine that you said "no offense" so it doesn't count is a **** move. Don't post something that many would interpret as racist if you don't want to have to defend yourself against the accusations.

And theaternut, you're an idiot if you can't understand the difference between irony and hypocrisy. No offense.

[DAME]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:37pm

I don't know Orange. I think he said and is taking the hits for it. And probably enjoying the crazy rants that have followed. Watching this explosion has definitely been entertaining.

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:37pm

"No tengo verguenza por que yo se quien yo soy. Para decirte la verdad me importa tres carajos lo que los comemierdas aqui piensan."

Damn! Sometimes google translate works a little too well!

LOL.

[DAME]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:41pm

Mister Matt that is hilarious. What is that picture from? I feel like I have seen it. Drag Race?

[Kristie-K2]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:43pm

Oh Carlos, you are Hysterical!!!!

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:47pm

Carlos,
No tengo verguenza por que yo se quien yo soy. Para decirte la verdad me importa tres carajos lo que los comemierdas aqui piensan.

....she says as she stomps away in her cha-cha heels.

[theaternut]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:49pm

SI. Y CON ORGULLO!

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 3/14/12 at 7:50pm

"In point of fact, I share a last name with one of Shakespeare's more famous good guys. It is we who do the beheading! "Out, out brief candle", indeed!"

I'd forgotten that. In fact, I played you once:

O, I could play the woman with mine eyes

And braggart with my tongue! But, gentle heavens,

Cut short all intermission*; front to front

Bring thou this fiend of Scotland and my self;

Within my swords length set him; if he scape,

Heaven forgive him too!

*and bring your haggis and Macallan's into the house, take your seats for Act II, and please kilted gentlemen who are not wearing underwear, keep your legs crossed when letting in late comers.