Natasha Pierre vs Hamilton

[gstrus2]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:19pm

Natasha Pierre and the Great Comet of 1812 is playing ART in Dec/Jan. If it transfers to Broadway, it could pose a serious threat to Hamilton, what awards do you think each would win? 

[JoseLee_]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:21pm

I don't see a competition at all.

[mattporter17]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:25pm

I think Hamilton will pull a "Producers" sweep next year honestly. If I was working on a musical I'd push it back until the following season, 2016-2017.

[GreasedLightning]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:29pm

"I don't see a competition at all."

 You've clearly never seen Natasha, Pierre. 

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:29pm

Regardless of who wins the Tony a Broadway season with Hamilton, Natasha and American Psycho would be amazing.

I still think the Hamilton team has a bit of work to do to keep the buzz going until next June.

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:34pm

I think "Natasha, Pierre..." has the best score that I've heard for the longest time and that includes "Hamilton". The same goes for the show in general. It's brilliant. I liked "Hamilton too but I prefer "The Great Comet". I can't wait to see what ART does with it.

Updated On: 6/2/15 at 09:34 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:37pm

I don't really think they'll transfer it to the Broadway.  ESPECIALLY with Hamilton there.

[Kad]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:37pm

I love, love, love Great Comet, and legitimately listened exclusively to the cast recording for months after its release. 

But I think it needs a smaller, more customizable space to be fully appreciated; it is was written with such a space in mind. 

I also think Hamilton is a superior and more important piece of theatre. And I don't think it will lose steam- it has very limited availability in its first months and I doubt people will lose interest. 

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:46pm

Okay I'm curious. I haven't seen Hamilton and the only video i can find of it is a 1 minute montage with that "I'm not throwin away my shot" song. That is the only song i have heard from the show. So for those who have seen Hamilton, how huge is this show going to get? Are we talking RENT and HAIR huge? Or are we talking something smaller like Next to Normal? I saw a poster saying this was the best musical of our generation. Are we all gettin a little cray cray or is Hamilton really  the second coming of Christ?

[Kad]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:49pm

I do think Hamilton is a rare theatrical event and will become a generational marker for musical theatre. 

It has the feeling of the zeitgeist, just as shows like Rent, Chorus Line, and others did. 

And I saw it before the hype machine was in full swing. 

Updated On: 6/2/15 at 09:49 PM

[GreasedLightning]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:55pm

Last I heard the producers of Natasha, Pierre fully intended on bringing it to Broadway... eventually. 

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:58pm

Is there anymore footage of Hamilton out there right now? I swear, the only thing i can find is that montage. I would love to hear more songs.

EDIT: Nevermind i found a 9 minute special CBS did.

Updated On: 6/2/15 at 09:58 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:01pm

I love Natasha and Pierre and already have tickets to see it again at the ART.  They'll probably have to see how that goes.  It's going to be on the larger main stage there and I haven't heard if they will be doing any of the food and drink stuff that Malloy loves.  I'm sure they'll have to assess how Cambridge goes before they make any decisions about Broadway.  What will it lose if it's on a proscenium with tradition theater rows of seats?  What will it gain?

What prices can Broadway ticket buyers tolerate if there are more bells and whistles?  How much more can Randy Weiner get away with as he rakes it in with his Theatre of the 1%?

I think it's all interesting but I don't think they'd be able to go from ART to Broadway in the same season.  I could be wrong, I have been in the past.

[gstrus2]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:03pm

Pippin had a similar time frame at ART and came to Broadway that same season.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:08pm

That production is not coming in. The show flopped in the theatre district. Only a fool would tempt fate.

Only an even bigger fool would bring it in against Hamilton.

And I would think that, if it did come in, it may well be a revival.

I liked Natasha a lot, including the score, but it got zero traction. 

Hamilton is indeed the most important show of the 21st Century (to date), and the last fifth of the previous century as well. It has already banked enough advance to recoup, and it will be in line with Rent and A Chorus Line among relatively recent landmark shows. But it is more than both-the Show Boat of this century.

Buzz is not going to be the problem for Hamilton; finding a ticket will be the problem. 

 

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:11pm

Weren't a lot of people saying the same thing about Ragtime?

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:37pm

How much are they paying you Hogan? 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:53pm

"Weren't a lot of people saying the same thing about Ragtime?"

 No.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 11:10pm

Greased, lots of producers intend a lot of things, but most never fulfill their intentions. But even giving them the benefit of the doubt, it would be utterly crazy to bring it in knowing you would be an also ran.

Bilbo, Ragtime was not enthusiastically reviewed except by Canadian critics who were described as provincial for the degree they jumped on the Garth bandwagon. And Ragtime was a spectacle not an important landmark in musical theatre. 

CATSNY, if you have an in, I'd rather get one measly point than a sum certain. Unfortunately for your conspiracy theory the only thing I got for saying what I said was two astonishing evenings of theatre, one very early in previews (prior to any significant hype) and the other during the last extension. And yes I know I sound like a flack for the show, but I have waited a long time for validation of my belief that musical theatre had a future. 

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 6/2/15 at 11:43pm

So is the ART staging of NATASHA... going to reimagine it for a proscenium house? 

[LightsOut90]

Posted: 6/3/15 at 12:12am

The same lead producers on Natasha, Pierre are behind the On The Town revival, the word sanity does not exist to them. 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/3/15 at 12:20am

It's on the stage at the Loeb Drama Center of the ART.  Will they retrofit the theater to make it look like a supper club, as the original fantasy was for the prospective Broadway production?  Probably not.  

[HogansHero]

Posted: 6/3/15 at 12:23am

LightsOut, I didn't realize that. Maybe if they are humbled at the Tonys it'll knock some sense into them. Or not.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/3/15 at 1:18am

I don't know much about the show or the specific plans at the ART other than this:

- I have tickets

- It won't be their traditional proscenium as they are building the stage out over the front section of seats (reducing seating by a third)

 

Lastly, if the ART is looking to bring any show to broadway next season, I suggest it would be Waitress, premiering this summer.

 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/3/15 at 1:21am

- It won't be their traditional proscenium as they are building the stage out over the front section of seats (reducing seating by a third)

I did not know that.  It'll be interesting to see.