Nick Adams Victim of Gay Discrimination ?- Page 3

[dramamama611]

Posted: 8/1/09 at 2:29am

Carrot Top was a stand up comedian once upon a time. Known predominantly as a prop comic.



Anyway....once you WILLILNG admit you violated their dress code, you really cannot make a stink about not being let in to the club.

1. He's not a star
2. I have no feelings about him one way or another to be honest
3. He needs to get over himself.

[winston89]

Posted: 8/1/09 at 3:18pm

I agree with Dramamamma. I feel that NIck Adams is just changing stories. It is very obvious that he was not allowed into the club because of what he was wearing. Yet, he decided to take it to the next level and assume that it was because he was gay and acted on that thought. Bad choice Nick, bad choice.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 8/1/09 at 4:02pm

This whole thing can be resolved if Nick, the bouncer, and the President just get together for a beer.
Updated On: 8/1/09 at 04:02 PM

[RippedMan]

Posted: 8/1/09 at 5:55pm

yes, if only they could just get together a beer.

[CurtisTaylorJr2]

Posted: 8/1/09 at 8:56pm

There's nothing lower than making false claims of discrimination, it's downright shameful.

[Lohania]

Posted: 8/1/09 at 9:12pm

I agree with those who ask why Nick even wanted to go in this joint. They have a lot of fancy door policies for a menu where no entree goes for over $20, they have music playing on the site, they photograph the patrons like some low-rent nightclub that's desperate for business, and they ask for prospective employees to provide a headshot. Plus, read their door policy carefully. No skull caps. Aren't there observant Jews who wear those most or all of the time? Also, no baggy clothing, no chains, no hoodies. In other words, no clothing that has been stereotyped by negative images of ethnic minorities, which makes one kind of wonder what kind of patrons they want to discourage. Actually, come to think of it, I'm kind of glad Nick brought attention to this establishment. It's one thing to have a dress code where men are required to wear jackets and ties, another where they say that casual attire is perfectly okay, but they seemingly want to weed out certain segments of society in their specific dictates. It wouldn't surprise me if Nick was right. I'm not a Nick fan or Nick hater, but I don't see anything wrong with bringing awareness to things like bouncers and door policies against people who just want to enjoy a drink and a meal and are not looking to cause any trouble whatsoever as they drink and dine.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/1/09 at 9:21pm

I'm gonna go out on limb here and say that while yes, sometimes people call a yarmulke a skull cap, that all those provisions (right or wrong) are about quelling gang activity and not about keeping out Rabbi Moishe.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 8/2/09 at 2:14am

Phyllis, I love you. That post made me crack up.

[broadwayhoofer]

Posted: 8/2/09 at 3:36am

What a lying, little shill. I have been to Turtle Bay with my very colorful "queens" plenty of times and have never been turned away.

The comments on his blog are pretty great:
A poster, Adam, responds...
"In one of your posts you said you were NOT attacking the Turtle Bay establishment. Even if you were discriminated against, you are still attacking the establishment by asking fellow community members not to give their business to Turtle Bay. Also, is it that hard to accept that one member of society hasn't falling into the "it's okay to be gay" way of life that is being forced upon us? Maybe he was just sick of it. No, he still should not have judged you as his faults are as great as everyone elses', but I see where he is coming from. Leading a boycott because of one insignificant bouncer's point of view is ridiculous. Drop the drama. High school is over."

to which Nick Adams replied:
"Can we please take a minute for Adam's comment " I can see where he was coming from" .... I don't even know where to begin with this post..."

to which another guy, Jas, responds PERFECTLY with this:
"Nick, since you're basically asking your fans to trash Adam for his comment, right after we trash Turtle Bay for perceived wrongs against you, here goes: Adam doesn't have a clue about severe Narcissistic Personality Disorder. That's why he thinks they can "drop the drama" or grow up, etc. They can't, Adam, because NPD is incurable. Google it and get over it. You have to accept them as they are. Learn to adore them, feed them, love them, but stay clear of the human harm they cause on a daily basis. They honestly don't mean to harm others, but they feel so hurt they can't help themselves. Severe NPDs exploit colleagues, fans and friends to meet their needs for attention and adoration. They can't tolerate rejection. Or criticism. So lower your hopes and expectations, Adam. Just go along and try to put boundaries around their damage. When placated, they can be highly amusing, loving, and fun to be with.
You're being totally insensitive to expect an NPD to grow up, or to understand someone else's point of view. Ex: Nick can't understand the Bouncer's perspective, and the bouncer can't understand his. They both imagine stuff that's not there in order to support their own hurt and natural paranoia. Nick even says he can't begin to understand YOUR feelings or perspective, Adam. See there?
Mayo Clinic says NPDs have the "moral intelligence of a 6 year old child," and they can't help it. Ororobos asks, "Can't we all just get along?" Yes we can! We can build a better world where NPD bouncers, dancers or taxicab drivers, gay and straight, can co-exist without destroying each other, a world where each feels highly valued and always accepted. If you can't do this, Adam, then you best save yourself and anybody you love by getting as far away from them as possible. They're toxic: If cornered or rejected, they try to take everyone down with them. You didn't notice?"


....Hit the nail on the head and summed up Nick Adams to what he really is, a narcissist.

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 8/2/09 at 6:25am

Can you blame us for hating Nick Adams? He's done nothing to market actual talent. When he proves he's more than commercial beefcake we'll gladly back down and give him his due.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 8/2/09 at 11:35am

Exactly.

[Kalimba]

Posted: 8/2/09 at 2:56pm

Poor, poor Nick. A legend in his own mind.

[MarkK]

Posted: 8/2/09 at 4:29pm

It's weird to me The Advocate would even care, or be willing to take this on, when the facts are a bit squishy. Then again, they have Perez Hilton on their cover this month, so what do I know.

[Luvinbroadway]

Posted: 8/2/09 at 10:14pm

Not a victim but a self-promoter...zzzzzzzzz.

[sealionspeed]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 9:49am

Nick Adams makes me puke in my own mouth. Harsh? Yes! Faking gay discrimination for cabaret publicity...a lot harsher. This guy needs to go be in a soap opera somewhere, somewhere he can be half-nude all the time and ham up all his performances. Disgusting

[CateBroadway]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 1:16pm

I wasn't sure how I stood on the issue when I read his blog but after reading these vicious posts, I feel sorry for Nick. You'd think if anyone would know how to be supportive of a human rights issue it would be the Broadway community. At very least if you didn't agree with someone you wouldn't resort to spending the past 5 days trashing a human being and making crude remarks at another person's expense that had nothing to do with the issue at hand.

We weren't there. He felt like he was discriminated against and rather than turn his back he tried to get a morsel of justice. If anything, I expected people to be glad that he found a positive outlet to speak his mind rather than turning his back on a situation that he clearly deemed not PC.

As for the self-promotion issue, the advocate came to him. And if you read any special interest piece they almost always tag on an ending about what the person they're interviewing is up to. It makes it relevant for readers who have no idea who he is, as I presume a bunch of them don't.

I honestly believe he had pure intentions, at least purer intentions than the lot of you name calling and bullying a member of our community.
Updated On: 8/3/09 at 01:16 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 1:35pm

You'd think if anyone would know how to be supportive of a human rights issue it would be the Broadway community

Well, I guess you'd think wrong, although I'm not sure how many people would agree getting into Turtle Bay is a human rights issue.

[BwayBoundJoe]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 1:41pm

Oyi. Honestly, what's next? PLEASE tell me he's going to "tweet" that Will-I-Am, or even better, Alice-Fing-Ripley, Beat him up.

I'm sure I speak for everyone when I type, SO over Nick Adams.

[mgcproductions]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 1:51pm

if any of you knew him personally you would know that he is not full of himself and is actually a very sweet down to earth person. i spoke with nick about this and he truly believes it was discrimination. none of us were there so we don't know the story.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 1:51pm

...SO over Nick Adams

Clearly you're not.

Updated On: 8/3/09 at 01:51 PM

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 3:10pm

You people are disgusting.
Nick is EXTREMELY humble and completely genuine, regardless of you what you think.
I don't get the vile hate you people are throwing around for no reason and the assumptions you make.. which speak about you and your minds, not Nick.
Thank you, cate. You are a nice voice of reason.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 3:27pm

When you talked to him, did you ask why he didn't mention the hand holding anywhere else except in The Advocate?

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 4:26pm

If Nick feels he was discriminated against, then that's what he feels. IMO, he should have taken it up with management either face to face or a telephone call before blogging about it.

[MarkK]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 4:45pm

My thoughts are , what happened to Nick at Turtle Bay most likely hurt is feelings. Was it discrimination, who knows?

But, he blew it way out of proportion, and that trivializes actual discrimination in a way that makes Nick seem superficial.

[mywonderwa11]

Posted: 8/3/09 at 6:48pm

I see Nick and his boyfriend everywhere I go. I went to Blockheads for margaritas yesterday and there he was! I went to dinner a few hours later and there he was again! Later that night I went to G in Chelsea with some friends and BAM! I can't get rid of him.

I'm definitely not a fan. He's annoying.