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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

Interesting article from AMNY today (Dec 15) ...



“What happens when the benevolent landlord who gave them that space for a song decides it’s time to sell out and a hedge fund buys it?” Karen Greco said. “Or, if it’s an itinerant company that doesn’t have a space, so many theater rental spaces are gone now, where do they go?”



‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’: Manhattan’s theaters and entertainment venues are still struggling

Updated On: 12/15/22 at 10:49 PM

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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

Admitting that is a way of reinforcing that discounts are readily available. And "crying poor" is generally not a successful strategy when trying to sustain and build earned revenue.

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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Admitting that is a way of reinforcing that discounts are readily available. And "crying poor" is generally not a successful strategy when trying to sustain and build earned revenue."



Maybe for individual shows, especially commercial. But for a small non-profit venue like the wild project, I don't see how it could harm them to mention that they're struggling. "high-demand, no discounts" isn't really the reputation they've build they brand/model on.

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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

Strategy may play a part for some but I think denial is a big factor too, as is just old fashioned embarrassment. It's a tough situation but New Yorkers are resilient so I have long term optimism. Neighborhoods shift, as they always have, audiences shift, as they always have, and the theatre companies shift over time, as they too always have. Thinking outside the box is a pretty good prescription.
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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

Unless tickets not selling is being tied directly to the quality of a production, just getting your show mentioned in the press is an inherent win.

For example, I totally would have gone to see that Jill Sobule musical if it was still running, and that AmNY article about theaters not selling was the first time I had heard of it.









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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

Admitting there's a problem - tickets just aren't selling - is the first step to solving the problem and strategizing for a solution. That's the very first step. If you can't identify the problem, then there's no way you will survive going forward. And as Greco says in the interview - 'no one wants to admit they're not selling tickets'.

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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

Why does no one blame greed and capitalism? Does Caroline’s really need to up their rent? What other venue is going to take a basement like that? That whole block is always struggling to have tenants.

I was always so annoyed when my rent in nyc would go up year after year but the quality of the building kept getting worse. Greed.

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‘Nobody wants to admit that they’re not selling tickets’

As far as theatre goes, I think that producers this false narrative about things being back and better before. It’s not. I am sure, for instance, we all know people who, even after all this time are not comfortable for their own reasons to go back to the theatre. And, press releases stating that an actor is out sick due to covid sure don’t help regarding getting people back.


They are living in world of fantasy that they created. Out of touch with the reality of the world around them. If they had acknowledged that things aren’t different then they wouldn’t be in this situation where they now walk away with egg on their face.

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