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#101

RAGTIME closing August 16th; Cast Changes in Final Weeks

MysteriousLady said: "Lincoln Center's Met Opera has presented Black artists as European characters for years. If we can have a Black Mimiwe can have a Black Maria at the Lincoln Center Theater. Musicals are not documentaries."

Mimi was not a real woman. 


"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#102

RAGTIME closing August 16th; Cast Changes in Final Weeks

TotallyEffed said: "Voter said: "Funny, none of you have anything intelligent to say."



Yeah, girl, you're just tooraci- sorry, intelligent, for the rest of us to keep up with!
"

Wanting to see a historical figure be cast appropriately is racist? 


"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#103

RAGTIME closing August 16th; Cast Changes in Final Weeks

iluvtheatertrash said: "TotallyEffed said: "Voter said: "Funny, none of you have anything intelligent to say."

Yeah, girl, you're just tooraci- sorry, intelligent, for the rest of us to keep up with!
"

Wanting to see a historical figure be cast appropriately is racist?
"



I’d say that if you’re so hung up on it that you’re arguing with strangers online, I’d at least be curious about the potential for something there. Theatre is a special and unique art form. It has different rules that allow room for a lot of creativity and possibilities. It’s far more forgiving than film, for instance. The all male production of Twelfth Night starring Mark Rylance was potentially the best Shakespeare I have or ever will see. Was I furious that men were playing female roles? No, I was delighted by the top notch talent and storytelling. Did you have issues with Bertie Carvel’s amazing performance in Matilda? Did you find it distasteful that many of the actors who played Hedwig on Broadway were completely the wrong age? What is it about this role and this actress that irritates you so?

 

On stage, you can play with wires, pulleys, makeup, movement, lighting, and casting in infinite combinations. Poetry, song, double casting, etc etc etc. The list goes on and on. Some theatre makers even emphasize making the audience aware that this is theatre, not real life.

 

So yes. If you struggle that deeply with a black woman playing a character in a musical about singing nuns, then maybe you should ask yourself… why? Maybe it’s all totally innocent. But why?

#104

RAGTIME closing August 16th; Cast Changes in Final Weeks

iluvtheatertrash said: "Wanting to see a historical figure be cast appropriately is racist?"

Again I'll ask: does a performer's height or weight or eye color or nationality have to match the historical figure, too? If not, why not?

#105

RAGTIME closing August 16th; Cast Changes in Final Weeks

TotallyEffed said: "I’d say thatif you’re so hung up onit that you’re arguing with strangers online, I’d at least be curious about the potential for something there. Theatre is a special and unique art form. It has different rules that allow roomfor a lot of creativity and possibilities. It’s far more forgiving than film, for instance. The all male production of Twelfth Night starring Mark Rylance was potentially the best Shakespeare I have or ever will see. Was I furious that men were playing female roles? No, I was delighted by the top notch talent and storytelling. Did you have issues with Bertie Carvel’s amazing performance in Matilda? Did you find it distastefulthat many of the actors who played Hedwig on Broadway were completely the wrong age? What is it about this role and this actress that irritates you so?

On stage, you can play with wires, pulleys, makeup, movement, lighting, and casting in infinite combinations. Poetry, song, double casting, etc etc etc. The list goes on and on.Some theatre makers evenemphasize making the audience aware that this is theatre, not real life.

So yes. If you struggle that deeply with a black woman playing a character in a musical about singing nuns, then maybe you should ask yourself… why? Maybe it’s all totally innocent. Butwhy?
"

Honestly, one of the smarter takes I've seen on this board in a while, and I appreciate it even if you clearly suspect my position is coming from a place I'd disagree with.

What I'm more interested in is where we draw the line between casting as a theatrical device and casting that changes how an audience reads a story. I don't think every role can be played by anyone in every production - context, concept, and directorial intent matter. Sometimes race is incidental to a character, and sometimes it creates new layers of meaning whether the production intends it to or not.

I may ultimately disagree with this particular casting choice, but I'm much more interested in discussing the broader principle than litigating a single actress's suitability for a role.

That's the conversation I'm interested in having. Truthfully, I'm far more interested in that question than in The Sound of Music itself, which I've always found somewhat dull as a stage musical. 

#106

RAGTIME closing August 16th; Cast Changes in Final Weeks

iluvtheatertrash said: "TotallyEffed said: "Voter said: "Funny, none of you have anything intelligent to say."



Yeah, girl, you're just tooraci- sorry, intelligent, for the rest of us to keep up with!
"

Wanting to see a historical figure be cast appropriately is racist?
"

Do you have the same issue with the entire cast of Hamilton? 

 

#107

RAGTIME closing August 16th; Cast Changes in Final Weeks



You disappoint more - by enjoyingissues with me. once again, stop. it's an opinion. find someone else. open your mind."

I don’t enjoy issues with you. I’m tired of you saying insensitively stupid things. Just because diversity has gotten a tad better doesn’t mean the problem is solved. It took Lin Manuel writing a Hamilton to intentionally break the mold and people on this board still try to defend “color blind” casting as a problem. 

Diversity in theater is always a choice to be made. It’s not the norm. It’s still considered a statement when it happens. That’s actually the bigger issue. 

 

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