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#26

Riedel:

RippedMan said: "I mean I'd be curious to see the new designs/staging, but I can't imagine Wilma Theatre in PA is going to transfer a Broadway show. That's a huge deal.

 

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The Wilma is one of the most highly respected regional theaters in the US. Any regional theater can bring a show to New York if the right producers are involved. Your comment makes no sense.

#27

Riedel:

"The Wilma is one of the most highly respected regional theaters in the US. Any regional theater can bring a show to New York if the right producers are involved. Your comment makes no sense."

I suppose it might be cogent to ask - has the Wilma ever had a commercial transfer since its 1973 inception? If not, it's not particularly nonsensical to wonder how and why they would start now with a revival of a relatively recent low-tier flop that doesn't even have cult appeal.

#28

Riedel:

I think y'all might be surprised how much more of a following this has now than it did in 2008. Know lots of people who became obsessed after seeing it on TV, or being shown the DVD. 

#29

Riedel:

I honestly don't know if the Wilma has ever commercially transferred a show--my guess would be no, as that has never seemed to be their purpose, and the type of work they normally produce doesn't scream moneymaker. And I personally think the possibility of a transfer of this production is being overstated (how often does a flop return to Broadway as a hit fewer than 10 years later?). But as I said, anything is possible with a determined (or foolhardy) producer. It just struck me as odd to see this particular company, which is quite well known and well respected in the industry, spoken of as if it were a community theater.

#30

Riedel:

"And I personally think the possibility of a transfer of this production is being overstated (how often does a flop return to Broadway as a hit fewer than 10 years later?)."

Oh, I agree, it's just the Weasel flapping his irrelevant gums as usual.

However, revivals of recent-ish flops seem to be slightly trending, don't they?: Ragtime (10 years) Side Show (16 years), Hughie (3 flop revivals of a flop in 40 years), The Color Purple (9 years), Jekyll & Hyde (12 years), etc.

#31

Riedel:

The trend does seem to be producers thinking every flop musical of the last 25 years is an undiscovered gem (although The Color Purple is, technically speaking, not a flop; the original production made money, not sure about the revival.)

#32

Riedel:

My bad - I thought that the original Color Purple  closed at a loss.

#33

Riedel:

HogansHero said: "adamgreer said: "No, I hated this show. I had no idea what the "hype" was."

if you hated it, then isn't it logical (and redundant) that you had no idea what the hype was [for]?


 

Why are you always so smug?

 

#34

Riedel:

Jarethan said: "
 Because Reidel said it?   Get a grip. "

Calm down, a$shat, before you hurt yourself.


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#35

Riedel:

Where a show started (i.e., the Wilma or anywhere else) has zero to do with its transfer to Broadway. Shows can come in from a reading in a rehearsal room with 5 people in attendance. Provenance means nothing, and nothing is expected of the regional theatre where it originates.

@adamgreer You need to look up "smug" in the dictionary. All I was doing was pointing out that your second observation lacked a meaningful foundation. It is not smug to parse a person's post on here; you've done it plenty. Don't apply labels because you are embarrassed. 

#36

Riedel:

Your holier than thou attitude is really insufferable. 

#37

Riedel:

adamgreer said: "Your holier than thou attitude is really insufferable. "

Why suffer?  This site has a great tool at your disposal to dispose of me if you don't want to read what I have to say. 

#38

Riedel:

newintown said: ""And I personally think the possibility of a transfer of this production is being overstated (how often does a flop return to Broadway as a hit fewer than 10 years later?)."

Oh, I agree, it's just the Weasel flapping his irrelevant gums as usual.

However, revivals of recent-ish flops seem to be slightly trending, don't they?: Ragtime (10 years) Side Show (16 years), Hughie (3 flop revivals of a flop in 40 years), The Color Purple (9 years), Jekyll & Hyde (12 years), etc.


 

And all but one flopped miserably.  And I don't think -- but could be wrong -- that the single one that ran a while actually made back its investment.

 

#39

Riedel:

"The Tonys were tense that year, with “Passing Strange” and “In the Heights” running neck and neck for Best Musical right up until the last minute"  LOL

Riedel:

#40

Riedel:

well most shows flop so I'm not sure what the significance of that is. that does not alter the fact that this is not gonna happen.

#41

Riedel:

I wonder how much Riedel got paid to write this.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#42

Riedel:

"I wonder how much Riedel got paid to write this."

Even at $1, it's more than it's worth.

#43

Riedel:

As a reminder, Passing Strange, during its brief 24 week run in 2008, had a high gross of $393,296 (for its closing week) and a low of $81,740 (2nd full week of performances), and an average weekly gross of $223,839.

It was never remotely successful.

#44

Riedel:

Kad said: "I wonder how much Riedel got paid to write this."

How dare you suggest such a thing! Riedel would NEVER accept money for a story. A couple of drinks at a bar is his currency. Coupled with a willingness to suppress the urge to humiliate him. 

#45

Riedel:

HogansHero said: "I liked the show a lot, but it's toast for Broadway purposes. If you want to discuss something interesting, figure out why Riedel wrote this article. 

 

"

Riedel obviously likes the show, and I think that he wrote the article to drum up interest to prompt a transfer to Broadway. I think that he is trying to "make" news here.

#46

Riedel:

Sorry, my comment was in no way a diss at the Wilma. I know who they are, they do great work. But with a theater like La Jolla most of their shows move on to Broadway or some bigger regional life before Broadway. So it's just interesting to hear a theater being talked about that isn't normally the jumping point for Broadway. Now, if this revival were to transfer to say 2nd Stage, that I could buy.

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