Riedel/Raul--I guess I'll get over it — Page 4

Yeah, when "it's kind of like Sex & the City" is the best your marketing people can come up with, it's time to find some new marketing people. I'm sure that turned a lot of people off the show (at the same time, I'm sure it brought in a handful of tourists).

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The "Streisand Syndrome" name was supposed to be kinda jokey. It's just the look on his face made me think of Nolte and Bacall...the look of shock that it's not you and trying to maintain your composure without looking too pissed off.

Has a clip of Pierce winning showed up anywhere yet? I have scoured YouTube to no avail; I was so surprised myself that I didn't even look at Raul Esparza's face. I was glued to Pierce.

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I guess I always saw Sex and the City as a friendship among women story (which is how it was marketed) rather than a man fighting commitment story which is why I never got the comparison. True, they both involve New York and sophistication but that is like comparing Alice in Wonderland and Journey's End because they both take place in a hole in the ground.

Yeah, when I think of Sex and the City, I think of the four women - when sweetestsiren mentioned Mr. Big, I was like "oh yeah!" Since I'm not a huge fan of the show, I dont immediately associate him with it, you know?

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From Isherwood's New York Times review:
And Mr. Esparza, giving what may well be the richest and strongest performance of his career, remakes the challenging character of Bobby as a seductive, moody figure who might easily be found coolly sizing up the offerings at one of the oversize, overcrowded pan-Asian eateries frequented by single women who continue to cavort like the gals from "Sex and the City." Bobby, eternally age 35, is, after all, a 35-year-old prototype of that show's ever-unavailable Mr. Big.

Just pointing out that long before the marketing even started, critics were noting the similarities. They're definitely not direct parallels, by any stretch, but I do think that they were notable because stylistically, Doyle presents the material with an emphasis on urban sophistication and it becomes very much an exploration of why that eternal bachelor can't commit. The material itself doesn't totally lend itself to the comparison, but the way it's presented and interpreted (I think) does. I guess I wasn't aware of the way Sex and the City is perceived, having been a big fan of the show. Yes, the friendship between the women was a huge part of the show, but so too were issues of dating, love and commitment. And the show's primary male figure is that enigma of a bachelor who's not so very unlike Raul and Doyle's Bobby.

Anyway, there are bound to be disagreements on this. I think that that angle was actually a promising one for the show, but that the marketing never delivered anything to back it up. There are definitely failings, but in my opinion taking the approach they did wasn't one of them. Company deals heavily with sex and the differences in expectations between the sexes, so I don't really see the comparison as being inappropriate or somehow debasing.

Definitely understandable. And I guess if people came into the show expecting Sex and the City, that's obviously not what they'd be getting (though I'd like to think they'd be getting something better).

If my bus gets there in time! I'll be cutting it pretty close. Thanks for asking.

That makes sense. I didn't think she'd do that in response to the winner - it seems a little harsh, but you never know.

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So...anyone want to clue me in on the pastraul/ridel feuds of Cabaret and Taboo? Just PM me please.

yeah what was the deal with taboo? i never heard anything about it....?