Riedel/Raul--I guess I'll get over it — Page 3

Here is a question

Next time he is nominated , does Raul show up?

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He was thought to be a lock with Company so that arguement or point of view is no longer valid

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Hence winky face!

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Emcee try selling your plea to the producers of the show. Break down the term BOX OFFICE DRAW. It means revenue is brought to the box office because of the performer. If this personality only appeals to the minority of theatre fans, as most of commercial theatre relies on NYC tourism, and the people do not come after 6 or 7 months, then the person in the large spectrum of commercial theater is not a draw.The shows's NOT selling. A talented performer and a box office draw in commercial theater are vastly different. For Limited runs,sure he could be a box office draw,but trying to headline him above the title and appeal to a tourist market for a long running show is LUDICROUS. Beyond theare fans, NO one knows who he is.

Updated On: 6/17/07 at 10:58 AM

Christine Ebersole is not a bankable name outside the theater community either. Just because she's made some guest appearances on sitcoms and other T.V. shows, she is not known by name outside of New York and a few LA agent's offices.

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Good point, skittles.

HOWEVER, we can't even really say whether the producers thought that Raul would be big enough alone? Doyle's a Tony-winning director. The show's themes have mass appeal, and nobody ever capitlalized on that enough.There are many, many things that should have been done differently. But I'm not a producer. That's not my job. I never COULD be a producer. But I have to wonder if anyone ever even expected this to take off and be a major success.

But still, you are blatantly missing the point. BCR's post said that Raul is a box office draw within. the. theater. world. He never said that he was a box office draw and left it at that. In doing that, he's saying you can argue that Raul's name appeals to theater fans -- the majority of a minority, if you will. YOU break it down. Box office draw means that the name draws. people. in. If we're talking about the rest of the world, then no, it's not true. If we're talking about the theater community, which is what got this discussion started in the first place, then yes, it's totally valid. He brings people in. I don't get why you seem to think that any level of box office draw is irrelevant to the point of being non-existant unless it keeps a show from closing. He got people in, which you cannot ignore simply because he wasn't enough to keep the show open longer and sell it out, etc. Look at it this way: with a complete unknown, the show may have closed even sooner, because you would have lost the people who came in to see him. I know, though, they don't exist.

I'm tired of repeating myself, so I'm not going to explain it again. And I have to go out. To get tickets to the show. To see my favorite non-box office draw. So you can chew on that for a while, yeah?

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The producers didn't promote this show - it's plan and simple.

I think they are awful producers. They get great productions, and they don't promote them. It's ridiculous.

i agree with ljay and others. I think the non existent marketing of the show was its biggest downfall. I also didn't expect it to have a long run from the beginning, big name or not. Some shows just aren't meant to have a long run. I first listened to the cd and eventually saw the show because of a introductory interest in Raul.

My fiancee is not a big theater person but he went with me. He couldn't stand the show itself (story wise) and found it boring. I was shocked at the end when he said "Well I did like the instrument thing and that depressed leading guy was pretty good". From my fiancee that is a great review, lol!

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"I'm sitting here tonight and I'm reminded of Raúl [Esparza]'s amazing performance, and my dear friend Michael Cerveris, and Gavin [Lee], who tap dances on the ceiling and Jonathan [Groff] who has so much talent at a young age that I have to go take a nap, and I think, oh yeah, they're going to call my name and they are going to say, "David Hyde Pierce, I'm sorry we're going to have to ask you to leave.""

TonyAwards.com has transcripts of all the speeches. ^_^

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I am so ready to get past the Tonys - it's been a long week.

OT (intentional) - has anyone bothered to see how many different Raul avatars there are?

Mine's staying up until someone/something earns the right to replace it!

Agree. It made it sound like an old sitcom. Cutesy. Been there...done that.