#51
Posted: 4/6/10 at 4:17pm
The New York Cagelles seem to be much more attractively made up and dressed than the London ones.
Robin De Jesus in costume for La Cage... — Page 3
#52
Posted: 4/6/10 at 4:23pm
And the London Cagelles were fabulous as they were. I adored them. They were absolutely joyous.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#53
Posted: 4/6/10 at 4:40pm
Great Matt.
We get it.
You liked them.
And I never used the term "gritty". Everyone else is.
And that picture you posted is (to me) of an ugly, overly painted drag queen. What's it supposed to mean?
We get it.
You liked them.
And I never used the term "gritty". Everyone else is.
And that picture you posted is (to me) of an ugly, overly painted drag queen. What's it supposed to mean?
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
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#54
Posted: 4/6/10 at 5:09pm
Great Matt.
We get it.
You liked them.
Pot/kettle. I'm no more redundant than you or PalJoey. Probably less so since I was out of town.
And that picture you posted is (to me) of an ugly, overly painted drag queen. What's it supposed to mean?
You tell me. The award-winning drag queen point was yours to begin with. I'm sure Andora doesn't think she's ugly or overly painted and she probably believes that she knows what she's talking about.
And I never used the term "gritty". Everyone else is.
LOL You were the one who brought up the term in this thread to begin with. Prior to this thread, it was just a couple of people who hadn't seen the London revival. I guess you were just mislead by "everyone"?
We get it.
You liked them.
Pot/kettle. I'm no more redundant than you or PalJoey. Probably less so since I was out of town.
And that picture you posted is (to me) of an ugly, overly painted drag queen. What's it supposed to mean?
You tell me. The award-winning drag queen point was yours to begin with. I'm sure Andora doesn't think she's ugly or overly painted and she probably believes that she knows what she's talking about.
And I never used the term "gritty". Everyone else is.
LOL You were the one who brought up the term in this thread to begin with. Prior to this thread, it was just a couple of people who hadn't seen the London revival. I guess you were just mislead by "everyone"?
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#55
Posted: 4/6/10 at 5:42pm
Matt,
I saw people posting the word gritty in reference to these new London musicals.
Sorry if it's not in THIS thread.
This isn't a contract.
And what's the point of the picture?
I saw people posting the word gritty in reference to these new London musicals.
Sorry if it's not in THIS thread.
This isn't a contract.
And what's the point of the picture?
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
Updated On: 4/6/10 at 05:42 PM
#56
Posted: 4/6/10 at 5:54pm
Uh...pass the bong over here so I can read what you're reading. You compared "ugly" to "gritty" and then mentioned how the London revivals are referred to as "gritty" in this discussion for...no reason? And then you said "everyone else" used the term but you? There were a few recent London revivals that were "grittier" than their predecessors. Maybe three? But it still has nothing to do with this production. It didn't have anything to do with this production in the other threads, either.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#57
Posted: 4/6/10 at 5:58pm
The whole 'ggritty/ugly' was also from another thread that is now gone.
Must be sad when you are late to the party.
Must be sad when you are late to the party.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
Updated On: 4/6/10 at 05:58 PM
#58
Posted: 4/6/10 at 6:06pm
No sadder than someone who's been at the party since the beginning thinking that the n00b's point is somehow invalid just because of their late arrival, when really the n00b's point is incredibly finely worded and manages to perfectly convey everything several of the rest of us have been trying to say from the beginning. :P
#59
Posted: 4/6/10 at 6:15pm
Award Winning Drag Queens.
Don't make me laugh!
Don't make me laugh!
#60
Posted: 4/6/10 at 6:34pm
Must be sad when you are late to the party.
Nope. It appears I haven't missed a thing since the Limey thread. It's the same party that's been going on for weeks. I just went to the loo, but I'm back now with a fresh gin and tonic in hand. So, why did you bring up "gritty" again in this thread?
*sip*
Nope. It appears I haven't missed a thing since the Limey thread. It's the same party that's been going on for weeks. I just went to the loo, but I'm back now with a fresh gin and tonic in hand. So, why did you bring up "gritty" again in this thread?
*sip*
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#61
Posted: 4/6/10 at 6:35pm
TheatreDiva90016, if no one else will, I will question your credentials, you may have been a Drag Queen, you may have been the most successful one America has ever seen, if so, congratulations, Im sure somewhere, deep inside I am feeling a remote bit of jealousy which you will obviously thrive on from judging your character, but unless you were an underpayed, drag queen in San Tropez back in 1960's, performing in a budget show, in an area where that sort of show was very taboo and dissed by the majority, you have no place in commenting on how these Cagelles SHOULD look as some sort of expert, I dont think they are your typical tits and glam drag queens, but they are also not "ugly and gritty" as you would so put it, they look, as does this entire production, appropriate for the setting, time period and due to the original budget of this production, back at The Menier, they have a genuine sense of budget about them, which is La Cage down to a tee!
#62
Posted: 4/6/10 at 7:30pm
Thanks for sharing your point of view.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#63
Broadway FLOP
West End HIT
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Broadway MEGA FLOP
West End MEGA HIT
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Broadway MEGA FLOP
...well, just you wait and see!
Now who sucks?
Oh! and don't forget that the original London productions of 'West Side Story', 'The Sound Of Music' and many others had better reviews and most importantly longer runs than the original Broadway ones did!
Posted: 4/6/10 at 7:43pm
Broadway FLOP
West End HIT
***************************
Broadway MEGA FLOP
West End MEGA HIT
***************************
Broadway MEGA FLOP
...well, just you wait and see!
Now who sucks?
Oh! and don't forget that the original London productions of 'West Side Story', 'The Sound Of Music' and many others had better reviews and most importantly longer runs than the original Broadway ones did!
Updated On: 4/6/10 at 07:43 PM
#64
Posted: 4/6/10 at 7:47pm
Ive read the comments about London sucking the life out of the shows, making them dark and gritty to make them seem more important or whatever nonsense it was and i can’t stop laughing.
Broadway took La Cage in 2004 and made it in to an overblown pretty and slick disaster which failed. They took Little Shop from Off Broadway and made it a huge spectacle of a show on Broadway which missed the mark by a mile. And then recently Broadway revived Guys and Dolls with Neon blazing, huge video screens etc and made it look as pretty as possible, yet the heart and soul and comedy of the original was missing and it died a death.
Ironic that London has in the past few years revived the same 3 shows and instead of throwing millions and millions to make them look eye popping the shows material was allowed to speak for itself. Great small sets, fab lighting, beautiful design and direction that elevated these shows beyond anything that Broadway even came close to with their revivals.
We don’t suck the life out, we let the life of the show speak for itself, all 3 of those shows are great, the book, the music etc all deserve to be admired, and in the London productions they are, as well as cast perfectly with actors who bring something to the table. The Guys and Dolls and Little Shop casts for the Broadway revivals were terrible, because the design, the budget, the spectacle came first, throw enough light and glitter at s**t and hopefully nobody will notice.
London does American revivals at the moment far better than Americans do their revivals, because the material is the most important thing in those West End Revivals.
If sucking the life out of the shows means great productions, great box office, great cast and multiple awards....then yes we do.
Broadway took La Cage in 2004 and made it in to an overblown pretty and slick disaster which failed. They took Little Shop from Off Broadway and made it a huge spectacle of a show on Broadway which missed the mark by a mile. And then recently Broadway revived Guys and Dolls with Neon blazing, huge video screens etc and made it look as pretty as possible, yet the heart and soul and comedy of the original was missing and it died a death.
Ironic that London has in the past few years revived the same 3 shows and instead of throwing millions and millions to make them look eye popping the shows material was allowed to speak for itself. Great small sets, fab lighting, beautiful design and direction that elevated these shows beyond anything that Broadway even came close to with their revivals.
We don’t suck the life out, we let the life of the show speak for itself, all 3 of those shows are great, the book, the music etc all deserve to be admired, and in the London productions they are, as well as cast perfectly with actors who bring something to the table. The Guys and Dolls and Little Shop casts for the Broadway revivals were terrible, because the design, the budget, the spectacle came first, throw enough light and glitter at s**t and hopefully nobody will notice.
London does American revivals at the moment far better than Americans do their revivals, because the material is the most important thing in those West End Revivals.
If sucking the life out of the shows means great productions, great box office, great cast and multiple awards....then yes we do.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
#65
Posted: 4/6/10 at 7:53pm
and another feather for London's cap...
West End HIT just about to arrive.
Broadway FLOP
West End HIT just about to arrive.
Broadway FLOP
#66
Posted: 4/6/10 at 8:57pm
Maybe you Brits can revive THIS:
#67
Posted: 4/6/10 at 9:00pm
back in your grave Joey, Pal. x
#68
Posted: 4/6/10 at 9:08pm
G'wan scram. Aren't there some Falklands you could be invading?
#69
Posted: 4/6/10 at 9:16pm
But back to the show...has anyone actually seen this revival since it went into previews on Broadway?
#71
Posted: 4/6/10 at 10:38pm
Sorry, time difference it is already Wednesday here.
#72
Posted: 4/6/10 at 11:06pm
This thread has gotten HILARIOUS.
#73
Posted: 4/7/10 at 12:00am
I wonder what Robin would think if he stopped by lurking to see what people were saying about him in a thread called "Robin De Jesus in costume for La Cage..."?
#74
Posted: 4/7/10 at 3:25am
I barely noticed 'our' cagelles faces, too busy gawping at their legs.
And despite the grit and grime of the club everyone found plenty of joy, la cage was one of londons most uplifting shows and many of us miss it sorely.
And despite the grit and grime of the club everyone found plenty of joy, la cage was one of londons most uplifting shows and many of us miss it sorely.
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