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#26

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Well...it's an extreme act. A crazy act. One that, to the best of my knowledge, had never been attempted in this country. But the man himself doesn't necessarily have to be crazy to pull the trigger. And there are many historians that believe the conspiracy to kill Lincoln (cause, as you know, Booth didn't act alone) was WAAAY more extensive than the handful of people who were implicated and/or tried.
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
#27

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"Well back where I come from, people believe all sorts of things that aren't true. We call it history".
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#28

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Hinkley shot Reagan.......Nevermind - I just re-read your post.
"High time we made a stand and shook up the views of the common man" - Tears for Fears

Updated On: 6/30/04 at 02:40 PM

#29

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Well, found a couple before Lincoln:

In 1776 during the Revolutionary War, a plot was uncovered to kidnap and murder General George Washington. The conspiracy involved the mayor and governor of New York as well as his personal bodyguard, Thomas Hickey. The latter was found guilty of treason and publicly hanged on June 28 in view of nearly 20,000 spectators. Washington remarked that the execution should set an example of how mutinous officers are rewarded.

ANDREW JACKSON
The first assassination attempt of a president occurred in 1835 when Richard Lawrence, 32, approached Andrew Jackson on a Washington street corner and aimed a derringer at point blank range. The gun miss-fired, but much to the shock of the president, Lawrence produced another derringer and attempted the assassination again. The second gun also miss-fired. Lawrence was later declared insane and died in an institution.

Following the attempt on Jackson, Vice President Martin Van Buren regularly carried two pistols while presiding in the Senate.

Some one hundred years later the Smithsonian Institute acquired the derringers and tested the weapons in an attempt to find the cause of the miss-firings. Both guns discharged on the first try. The odds of both derringers miss-firing in 1835 were calculated at one in 125,000.


"High time we made a stand and shook up the views of the common man" - Tears for Fears
#30

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Now THAT is absolutely fascinating! I never knew that!
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#31

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Wonderful research...THANK YOU, MJR!

Now THAT would have been a fabulous scene in the musical!
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
#33

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BANG! "Damnit"
BANG! "Damnit"
STOP WHERE YOU ARE "Damnit"
BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"
#34

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And then he could just throw the bullets at him like Sara Moore - (I swear I had tears in my eyes I was laughing so hard at that!)
"High time we made a stand and shook up the views of the common man" - Tears for Fears
#35

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Darling Sum...
The following members of your list are all of our problems. Not just "Republican" problems. Remember there are over 500 people in Congress, half of which are democrats.

Sex Scandals
Deaths in Iraq
Overblown Budget
Interest Rates
American Jobs Going Overseas
Handing Power to Iraq
War in Afghanistan
France
Germany
A New Pakistani Prime Minister
Prisoner Abuse
Israeli Palestinian Relations
The War on Terror

Hamlet's father.
#38

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Just in case anyone is interested: there is a book entitled "Assassins: The Darker Side of Politics". It's an fascinating read.

According to the book, the only two assassins characterized as legally sane were Czolgosz and Booth.
Everybody goes down well with beer.
#39

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who is the author?
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#40

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Amen, ckeaton. In a collective democracy, the fact that you didn't cause a problem doesn't recuse you from solving it.

And the fact that Republicans have a lot of big things to worry about doesn't stop them from worrying about the little things. Especially when smaller problems are so much more easily "solved."
#41

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Matt_G: American Assassins: The Darker Side of Politics by
James W. Clarke
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0691022216/qid=1088626113/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-1221644-0245736?v=glance&s=bookshttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0691022216/qid=1088626113/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-1221644-0245736?v=glance&s=books>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0691022216/qid=1088626113/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-1221644-0245736?v=glance&s=books
#42

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I think I read that as far as (other) attempts go, there were ELEVEN additional (foiled) attempts to take a president's life in US history that are not in the musical, including some bomb and other non-gun oriented plots.
#44

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Are you kidding me? This is quite the joke.
The show has nothing to do with one party or another.

I am a republican that works in politics and I adore Assassins. I would put my money on 99.9% of people attending having NO clue that this show even exists.

Because this is a Bway board I will not enter my long spiel but this is just another case of people losing sight of middle ground and villifying the other party. Most republicans arent uptight and want everything censored and most democrats arent morally bankrupt. Think about this logically. Why would republicans CARE? There is enough in this world to deal with.
"My friends have made the story of my life." -Helen Keller
#47

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Just a thought, but maybe with all the talk of a strike, it could be hurting future sales. Even if Roundabout may not be affected by a strike some folks might not be aware of this. I don't know just a thought.
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen." Conan O'Brien
#48

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How would the talk of a strike hurt Assassins? They are one of only a few shows who would stay OPEN if Equity were to strike due to their special non-profit contracts with the Roundabout. So in fact the strike would (dare I say) HELP Assassins because it would be one of the only shows left for tourists to see!
#49

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Yes I know that and you know that, as well as most of those who post here know that. But there alots of others who do not know that as fact, and could be a bit skittish to plan a theater trip to NYC and have a strike happen.
B
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen." Conan O'Brien
#50

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Even before the Tony's Assassins was having horrible advance sales, LONG before the "threat" of a strike. They thought the Tony's would help...................

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