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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#1

Posted: 4/4/10 at 11:20pm

So, I DVR'd this (b/c of family stuff)...did they actually cut "Climb Evr'y Mountain" or did the DVR mess up? It went from Maria returning to the convent straight to the Entr'acte over scenery.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#2

Posted: 4/4/10 at 11:25pm

No, it was in it. But it's in the second half. Always has been.

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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#2

Posted: 4/4/10 at 11:27pm

The intermission in the movie is when Maria leaves the Von Trapps during the party to go back to the abbey.

After the intermission, there is a scene with the children and the baroness on the back porch of their house. The kids are playing ball with her.

"Climb Every Mountain" comes after this. The Reverend Mother inspires Maria to face her troubles and go back to the family and the man she loves.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#3

Posted: 4/4/10 at 11:27pm

So they moved it...or are you referring to the Finale Ultimo?


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#4

Posted: 4/4/10 at 11:31pm

No, I'm referring to the first time it's sung by the Mother Superior.

It's always been in the second half, husk.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#5

Posted: 4/4/10 at 11:35pm

Recapping the plot:

Maria is convinced to leave the Von Trapps by the baroness, during the big party.

INTERMISSION

The kids are playing ball with the baroness on the back porch. Captain Von Trapp announces to his children that he plans to marry the baroness.

The kids try to see Maria in the abbey to beg her to come back and tell her about the plans for the wedding, but she won't see anyone. She is in seclusion.

The Reverend Mother summons Maria to her office to see what is troubling her, and discovers that Maria is in love with the Captain. She tells Maria to face her fears and to "Climb Every Mountain," 'til she finds her dream.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#6

Posted: 4/4/10 at 11:38pm

Sorry besty, I think we both hit "Submit" at the same time.

Ok...I guess it's been so long since I've seen the movie (I think the last time I saw it was before we did it my junior year of high school...soo 2002/2003?) that I was thinking it still closed the first act.

I like it better that way.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#7

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:04am

I think you simply confused it with the stage show.

If memory serves me, the stage show has the song sung at the end of the first act. The Mother Superior sings it insisting Maria goes back to the Von Trapps.

As others have said, in the movie, the intermission "cliffhanger" was the moment when she leaves the party.

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#8

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:07am

Having directed the show, I can vouch for the fact that "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" ends the first act. It's different in the film, though. It's another reason why I HATE MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#9

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:54am

Can you imagine Rodgers and Hammerstein NOT ending the first act with that beauty? It's "Soliloquy" all over again.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#10

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:55am

I happen to think the movie makes the material stronger. Whatever changes they made to the order of songs or who sings them were wonderful for the most part. I think it was wiser to move "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" if only because I think it plays much more strongly onstage than it does on film. Maria's climactic exit of the Von Trapp house sets up a great cliffhanger for the movie. Of course, onstage, it's best to bring the curtain down on an aging soprano hitting a glorious high A-flat. SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?

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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#11

Posted: 4/5/10 at 9:37am

I agree that the movie made the material much stronger. The movie is far superior to the Broadway versions, specifically the score.

I think "My favorite things" makes much more sense as the song Maria sings to the children during the thunderstorm in the bedroom. In the stage show, the Reverend Mother sings it to Maria when she tells her she has to go be the nanny for the Von Trapps. In the stage show, Maria has the children singing "The Lonely Goatherd" in the bedroom.

I cannot imagine the movie without the wonderful "Lonely Goatherd" puppet segment. That scene with the fantastic Bill Baird marionettes has always been my favorite part. When I have seen stage productions, I have always found ANY staging of "Lonely Goatherd" dissapointing and anticlimactic. That's a testament to how the movie put the piece in the upper realm of the best stage-to-screen musical adaptations.

"I have confidence" (written for the movie)blends with the original material fantastically. "There's no way to stop it" is my least favorite of the Broadway score, and I am glad it got axed from the movie. Finally, "Something Good" is IMO the perfect love duet for the Captain and Maria vs "An Ordinary Couple."

Other than the score, I find that the finale with Rolfe in the movie is far superior to the stage version. Much more dramatic, and much more poignant.

Captain Von Trapp: "You'll never be one of Them."
Rolfe: "LIEUTENANT!", "LIEUTENANT!" *Blows whistle*

Now THAT was a shock the first time I saw it, and led to the best lines in the movie:
"Reverend Mother, I have sinned"
"I too have sinned Reverend Mother."
A bit far fetched, but boy is it wonderful!

Updated On: 4/5/10 at 09:37 AM

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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#12

Posted: 4/5/10 at 9:37am

The movie is a vast improvement over the stage show as far as structure, song order, and all around adaptation of the material.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#13

Posted: 4/5/10 at 10:04am

And there's the line in that scene, "what is it you cawn't face, Maria?" Right?

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#14

Posted: 4/5/10 at 10:25am

Well, then let's give credit where credit is due - to screenwriter/adapter Ernest Lehman, a great writer. I also think he did similar wonderful work on West Side Story, and, of course, his screenplay for North By Northwest is perfection itself.

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#15

Posted: 4/5/10 at 10:29am

I got sucked into watching it again last night (It's my cat's favorite movie) and was thinking how great the film adaptation is. It is odd to end the "act" without that song, but dramatically it makes sense.

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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#16

Posted: 4/5/10 at 10:38am

"And there's the line in that scene, 'what is it you cawn't face, Maria?' Right?"

That always sounded to me like, "What is it, you cvntface?" LOL!


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#17

Posted: 4/5/10 at 11:38am

Personally, "An Ordinary Couple" is a beautiful song, and I love it. However, Richard Rodgers said that because of the ill health of Oscar Hammerstein, the song couldn't be rewritten. That's why when the chance came for Rodgers to "tweek" the score for the film, "Something Good" was written.

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#18

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:00pm

As long as we're praising writers, let's hear it for Pauline Kael who called it "The Sound of Money" and "the sugar-coated lie people seem to want to eat."


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#19

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:16pm

Ahhh... exactly what this thread was missing... sour negativity regurgitated from a dead woman.
Updated On: 4/5/10 at 12:16 PM

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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#20

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:21pm

Didn't Plummer refer to it as "The Sound of Mucous?"

(Just saying.. I love the film!)

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#21

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:23pm

Stopped counting at 75 how many times I saw the movie (and that was BEFORE it came out on video). Got to take the SofM tour in Saltzburg. After the birth of my children, pretty much the highlight of my life.

I also watched last night - why do I do that when I have it on DVD? Anyway, made me sad, again, Julie Andrews can no longer sing. Wish I could have seen her on Broadway.

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#22

Posted: 4/5/10 at 12:57pm

I didn't say I didn't like to eat the sugar coated lie goodoneinlou2. Regurgitate that.


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SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#23

Posted: 4/5/10 at 1:29pm

I've spent a lot of time pondering Kael's review. Should she be hailed for marching to the beat of her own drummer? Or should she be condemned for panning something so universally beloved? I come down on the side of the latter- I look at critics as a sort of Consumer Affairs for movie goers. She was a fascinating writer (I bet I read "Raising Kane" a hundred times) but should a film critic be so out of step with the tastes of the masses?

SOUND OF MUSIC on ABC Family...did they leave out something?#24

Posted: 4/5/10 at 2:15pm

I miss "How Can Love Survive?" I always liked how the Baroness was so dramatic (I cannot die like Camille for you) and Max was making these sarcastic comments (you reach your goals in your comfy old rolls).

I always hated the song "Something Good." It's much too self-congratulatory. And it's a waste of words to sing "something in my youth or childhood".

And I find it funny that the little girl that played Gretl gained so much weight that in the ending, Christopher Plummer asked for a Gretl stunt double to carry on his back.


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