Some of you may think this racist...it's not: — Page 3
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PS. about the Elpheba thing, the green make-up does matter actually because there aren't green people walking around. Also, unless I'm out of it, there never was a black Elpheba was there? Someone enlighten me if I'm wrong.
Posted: 5/5/05 at 9:21pm
Personally, I think a show like aida that, while it is fiction, has many historical elements, and should be kept as true as possible. No, there wouldn't be any blonde egyptians, but there were no white nubian princesses. Im sorry.
Sally, good luck at your callback!
"I think it was the Korean tour or something. They were all frickin' asian!" -Zoran912
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Posted: 5/5/05 at 10:55pm
that said...it's always pissed me off to see a person of African decent playing Mimi in Rent (case in point, Melanie Brown) but thats mostly because as a Mexican i wish they'd cut the latin girls out there some slack (bianca marroquin, tho she doesnt look latin) in the broadway world (no pun intended)...
that brings me to my next point - there is practically no such thing as racial purity anymore. you look at me, i look american (from ohio, someone said once) or french, and a bunch of russians mistook me for russian. but i am almost entirely of latin decent (some scottish somewhere i think). same with supposing black is black, white is white, asian asian etc - doesn't work anymore. thomas jefferson had mixed race kids...are you saying that a cultural crossroads such as egypt (invaded by nubians, jews, greeks, romans, abbassids, turks, mongols, and british or french i cant remember - also approximately in that order) is going to have either 100% white or black looking people? doubt it.
the reason disney did this casting is the same reason why they tend to keep the lion king cast as african-american (or canadian or brit or whatever) as possible: there is a really empowering, clear-cut message for black audiences to see a black king on stage on broadway. the KING is black. for the same reason, the nubian princess, the title character, and the heroine of the story should be black. (nubians in general i think did look black, but im not sure). also its important to strike a chord in the american audience: the only significant social struggle in the US being african slaves vs wealthy (white) landowners, racial casting serves as a tool for pathos. in mexico you'd cast the nubians with aztec-looking people and the egyptians with europeans. it can't work both ways because, due to nothing more than history, people of european descent (the conquerors) tend to be on a greater social position than people of aztec or african descent (or conquered), which is why you can't reverse the racial casting. plus the egyptians are the "bad guys" of the story - i doubt that after so much historic baggage, its african-americans the US wants to play this role.
ps. black face is essentially dead. i think they still do it in opera because (face it) opera hasn't evolved much since the end of the 19th century (la boheme).
as for the white chick playing Aida, race is the least of your worries. aside from the fact that purple clashes with red (my theory on the costume change in the second act) you are 14. supposing you have the vocals down, you should concentrate on figuring out what it feels like to rebel against a father (and a nation) for a forbidden (socially, politically, heck - in all senses) affair (not like radames is free terrain) whilst leading her nation in an uneven-sided war and thus facing the death penalty handed out by the one woman in egypt who gave you a break, the one you betrayed - you get my drift...
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Sammy Sosa is Domincan - but he is also of African background.
In fact, in the pre-Jackie Robinson era, manyh minor league ball clubs would sneak black players onto the team by having them use fake names and pretend to be Dominican or Cuban!
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does it piss you off to see black people on broadway period or anywhere?
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Talk what you know WB
black face is not dead
theres a show coming to bway called "The Minstral Show" and the 12 men in it will all be in black face.
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But Eartha Kitt also played the Wicked Witch - and looked good in green.
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i really don't even KNOW where mimi is supposed to come from (the "chica" in her mom's voice message is a good indicator that she's NOT mexican, at any rate)
"offended at seeing any black performer on broadway?" don't be ridiculous...i'm just saying mimi is like what? one of the 3 maybe 4 broadway show roles for latin females? there aren't many casting opportunities for us out there, at least not for lead roles. it is only "offensive" in a way similar to how irish actors or something get pissed off if british or american people get the role of an irish man. something that would be truly OFFENSIVE would be say, oh i dunno, natalie wood playing maria in west side story. but thats hollywood.
and the carribbean is another thing entirely. (granted, mimi could be from there, i'd guess puerto rico, again cause of the "chica", but i honestly can't say). all i know is i LIVE in mexico, and i have seen maybe what? 3, 4 black mexicans here my whole life? the spaniards decided to use the ample native slave labor available instead of importing, apparently.
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