THE WIZ: 2015 NBC LIVE MUSICAL- Page 54

[ArtMan]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 11:26am

SNAFU, When you work on shows like The Wiz and you mentioned working on Fiddler, if these shows are nominated in the costume category for Tony/Emmy are you included?  Or does it depend on the overall contribution you make?  I'm not trying to be nosy.  I just find it fascinating to kind of know of someone (sure its through the internet) that has the talent to be working in television, Broadway, maybe movies.  Its everything I daydreamed about when I was younger.  Of course, I knew it would never go anywhere. No talent or skills!!

[teddy1996]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 11:53am

Here is an exclusive article: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-et-st-wiz-production-20151128-story.html

[SNAFU]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 12:25pm

No, I am hired by the various designers to execute their sketches. Occasionally like with WICKED, a designer like Eugene Lee will  give me the idea and lets me run with the design,never really looking at it until it is installed. In both cases my name will not be on the nomination list. When I designed and built The Emperor Jones a few years back, I was indeed nominated for a Drama Desk but lost to La Cage.

[RockyRoad]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 5:05pm

Love how this POS troll Hamilton22 tries to take down anyone expressing a different option just because some people are not liking what they see.

Here's the best - This troll goes on the Fiddler thread and bashes that show and...get this..HASNT EVEN SEEN IT.

Crawl back under your rock.

[Hamilton22]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 5:08pm

I haven't bashed Fiddler at all. Criticizing a show for using stagehands in a crappy way isn't bashing. And the show is in previews, I'm sure they will get it straightened out before opening night.

Updated On: 11/28/15 at 05:08 PM

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 5:14pm

Will this be available to watch live online on Thursday night?

[RockyRoad]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 5:14pm

So criticizing a show you haven't seen (Fiddler)is OK.

But people criticizing a show they haven't seen (The Wiz) is not OK with you.

Wow..just when we thought you couldn't be any more of an idiot. Thanks for proving it.



Hamilton22 said: "I haven't bashed Fiddler at all. Criticizing a show for using stagehands in a crappy way isn't bashing. And the show is in previews, I'm sure they will get it straightened out before opening night.

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[Hamilton22]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 5:18pm

The only thing I have criticized are the things that others saw and criticized. People have problems with the set and the stagehands and a few other things. They have legs to stand on. The people criticizing the Wiz haven't even seen 10 minutes of it. No one has. So the multiple people calling the show crap already are nonsensical. I on the other hand have never said Fiddler looks like crap. I'm incredibly excited to see the show even with the flaws that people have mentioned.

Try again, dear :)

[RockyRoad]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 5:26pm

"The only thing I have criticized are the things that others saw and criticized."

So you admit you are criticizing a show you haven't even seen.

But yet, this troll writes in a previous Wiz thread....

"I'm sorry the cast and crew had to read so many negative comments from rude people who hadn't even seen 10 minutes of the show before they started to bitch and moan about it."

You're pathetic...you're a liar...you're disgusting.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/28/15 at 5:39pm

"So the multiple people calling the show crap already are nonsensical."

 

No one has called the show crap. You just can't read. We're all voicing opinions on the promos and material that has been released. Get it?

 

GET IT?

 

No, apparently not. What a dullard.

[teddy1996]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 12:11am

Do you know if this production will have a live orchestra or a pre recorded orchestra when they sing it live? 

[jacobsnchz14]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 12:23am

If it's like the other two Live productions, it's pre-recorded orchestra tracks.

[teddy1996]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 12:51am

Here is an exclusive article explaining the changes of the script. It is quite interesting: http://m.playbill.com/news/article/the-wiz-live-whats-different-whats-new-and-whats-going-to-broadway-373341

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 2:45am

Interesting indeed.

 

I thought the comments about the original jokes being unsuitable for an audience-less TV broadcast were interesting, and make sense. Thinking of some of the jokes they really would be unreally dead without an audience response (like the "I could see a girl wanting to go to location X, locationY ... harlem" line for example). Not sure a "Larry David" style seems like a logical replacement though. It also seems like they're anticipating and planning on restoring the original book mostly for the Broadway production.

 

Not sure how I feel about giving the opening scene too much backstory. Other attempts have proven painful like the film of THE WIZ and Muppets Wizard of Oz. But perhaps Fierstein will do it justice.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 7:26am

"Rather than Dorothy being helplessly swept up into the tornado (against her will), Fierstein imagines her as more of a stubborn runaway, who wishes the whole thing upon herself — "It's her dream after all," he says."

 

Epic fail, Harvey. Go write your own story then. This is "The Wizard of Oz," not Harvey's biography. You can't improve upon it. That's hubris of the highest order. She is a reluctant heroine who has to rise to the occasion to figure out what is important to her, she's not a rebellious mall girl in charge of her own destiny. And it ain't a dream either.


""It has to come in that mind of what a kid wants," he explains, "and so I started there. I wanted to say her parents are dead — it never said that. I wanted to say, 'I hate living with you' to her aunt. It's never said, right? In the movie, [she wants to leave] because her dog gets in trouble in [Miss Gulch's] garden, but I wanted to [say], 'I hate this school. I hate these kids. I hate living in Kansas. I want to go back to Omaha. That's where I was born; that's where I belong.'""

WTF??

Updated On: 11/29/15 at 07:26 AM

[c0113g3b0y]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 7:33am

Harvey's always been off his rocker a little.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 7:43am

He's completely wrong for this project if that's his approach. And he thinks the flying monkeys are racial (?!?) so he changed them to Winged Warriors?!?

 

Good god.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 7:58am

""The way the show is originally written," he explains, "Evillene just walks in singing '[Don't] Nobody Give Me No Bad News.' [You think], 'Who the f*ck is that, and why is she in a bad mood?' It's never explained — the thing about her and the water and all that. I said, 'I have to fix all the sh*t that has been bothering me for all these years,' so I gave Evillene an opening scene before she sings. I have her living in a boiler room with leaking pipes. Now, if you hate water, why the f*ck would you live in a boiler room with leaking pipes? But, don't we all? Isn't that the way we run our lives. We can just open the door and walk out and make our lives better, but we don't. We live in that boiler room with the leaky pipes and b*tch at everybody about it, and it turns us mean and ornery. You become mean and ornery, even though she could open that door and walk out of there and live somewhere else. Instead, she just hates on everybody.""

Except that she's a witch with powers. She isn't like all of us. Not average or ordinary or typical. She's the Wicked Witch of the West. As in, a WITCH.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 9:03am

""It has to come in that mind of what a kid wants," he explains, "and so I started there. I wanted to say her parents are dead — it never said that. I wanted to say, 'I hate living with you' to her aunt. It's never said, right? In the movie, [she wants to leave] because her dog gets in trouble in [Miss Gulch's] garden, but I wanted to [say], 'I hate this school. I hate these kids. I hate living in Kansas. I want to go back to Omaha. That's where I was born; that's where I belong.'""
 

Fierstein is describing Dawn Davenport, not Dorothy Gale. 

"I hate you, I hate Kansas, and I hate Christmas!"

"Simply click your cha-cha heels three times and say, I hate Kansas!"

Updated On: 11/29/15 at 09:03 AM

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 9:28am

Exactly!

[teddy1996]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 10:15am

In this version, addaperle will have an ipad

[c0113g3b0y]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 10:15am

Roscoe: ROFLMAO

[uncageg]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 10:33am

Just read the Playbill article and am fumimg.

Why do we now have to be "spoon fed" all of the things our brains and imaginations were able to get in the movie and the show? It's The Wizard of Oz for God's sake! I never found anytging racial about the winged monkeys! So now Emerald City has a bouncer. So Dorothy and her friends are easin on down to da club? I honestly expect that he is going to slip in a gay reference via The Lion. I thought it was a big mistake bringing Harvey on in the first place. He can't be subtle. He shoves his "messages" down your throat in his writing.  Unbelievable.

 

 

[c0113g3b0y]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 10:41am

Isn't the tin man supposed to be the gay one lol

MadTV Wizard of Oz Alternate Ending parody

[Hamilton22]

Posted: 11/29/15 at 11:01am

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""It has to come in that mind of what a kid wants," he explains, "and so I started there. I wanted to say her parents are dead — it never said that. I wanted to say, 'I hate living with you' to her aunt. It's never said, right? In the movie, [she wants to leave] because her dog gets in trouble in [Miss Gulch's] garden, but I wanted to [say], 'I hate this school. I hate these kids. I hate living in Kansas. I want to go back to Omaha. That's where I was born; that's where I belong.'"

 

I love this actually. It makes Dorothy more relatable to teens these days. Lots of teens hate school and hate the kids in their town. It sounds like dorothy will actually be a real person  rather than some doey eyed naive 2 dimensional girl that we are used to seeing. Harvey is great with books. 

Maybe some of you older people loved school and had no problem getting through it but that's not the case with lots of younger people these days. School is a battle and it's incredibly hard for some people to get through. Harvey is making dorothy a little edgier because kids these days are more edgier 

 

And good god Best12, get off it already,.Go make your own show if you are so mad about this one. Your pearls must be choking you at this point.

 

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Updated On: 11/29/15 at 11:01 AM