The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
KathyNYC2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/2/10
#25The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:36pm
I confess. I used the men's room at Fun Home recently. I usually get to theater ridiculously early to use the rest room but got stuck in a parked subway and arrived just before show time... The line for the ladies room was huge (with no line for the men's room) and we were being signaled that the show was going to start soon. I was desperate. It was the men's room or the floor (and there is no late seating there).
I walked in quickly apologizing and walked out just as quickly when done. There were a number of men there - no one said boo. I would like to think that if the situation were reversed (which would be highly unlikely given the short lines at most men's rooms), women would be equally tolerant of emergencies. Will some complain? There are people who complain about everything, but when there is no alternative, what are you going to do?
#27The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:53pm
How about this. Do not drink any liquids 12 hours before the performance and don't drink during intermission.
#28The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:56pm
Call_me_jorge said: "How about this. Do not drink any liquids 12 hours before the performance and don't drink during intermission"
Finally, a voice of reason.
KathyNYC2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/2/10
#29The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 7:04pm
Because men pee all over the d**n seat
Anyone who has been to a public ladies room can attest that men are not the only ones who pee on the seat and don't clean up afterwards. It's pretty disgusting... I mean seriously, what is the big deal of grabbing a piece of toilet tissue to wipe off the seat when you are done.
#30The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 7:11pm
It is automatic for me. Just common courtesy. Sometimes, I come into a stall and it looks like a horse had just been there. While I clean up after myself, I refuse to clean up someone else's mess. I use another.
aimeric
Stand-by Joined: 8/7/15
#31The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 7:57pm
Right on, Kathy. It's the "squatters" who ruin everything for everyone else in public ladies' restrooms. Ladies, please stop trying to "hover" while you pee--just put your @ss on the seat like everyone else and do your business. It'll be cleaner for everybody if you do. Jeez.
Updated On: 12/21/15 at 07:57 PM#32The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 8:33pm
At Dr. Zhivago when the line was really short at the mens room they let women use it. I had no problem with it.
#33The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 8:43pm
OK as long they do not expect men to stand outside until they are finished.
If they can deal with men coming into use the urinal at the same time I have no.problem with it.
#34The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 9:05pm
Mr Roxy said: "OK as long they do not expect men to stand outside until they are finished.
If they can deal with men coming into use the urinal at the same time I have no.problem with it.
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I never realized the topic of excretion was such passionate subject matter for you, but since you do so much of it on every single thread on this board, it makes perfect sense.
#35The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 9:16pm
Me Rogers, you need professional help
I will stay out of this thread now to allay your fears
Merry Christmas
#36The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 9:17pm
kdogg36 said: "But someone there mentioned the Radio City bathrooms where the urinals are so positioned that everyone using one is particularly exposed, and I can't say that I disagree that it shouldn't happen there. If it's all stalls or there are urinal dividers? Go right ahead.
I don't know that o can articulate it. And I am a gay man, so it's not like I'm not well aware that a sequal gaze can happen in a men's room. For me, it's a comfort issue. Is it logical? Not necessarily. But I'd rather not have women in a men's room with urinals that exposed for the same reason that I go to make doctors. I can't say i have a good, logical reason, and I'm not trying to argue that there is one. But...yeah. I'd rather women not use the men's room at Radio City.
I guess I'm not entirely following your argument here. For some unstated reason, you're implying that there's something wrong with women (or girls) catching a passing glance at men's genitalia. Well, wouldn't the same unstated reason apply to gay men (and boys)? Should they have separate restrooms? Obviously, that wouldn't quite solve the problem. :)
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ArtMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/08
#37The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 11:09pm
I agree with Huss. I've had more than one encounter with women who told me I couldn't enter the men's room because their female friend was in there. I normally am polite and state "sorry gotta go". If they continue, I tell them "if your friend is man enough to use the men's room then they are man enough to see men urinating." They usually call me rude, while I pee. Doesn't faze me in the least.
#38The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 11:22pm
Call_me_jorge said: "How about this. Do not drink any liquids 12 hours before the performance and don't drink during intermission."
I actually have a rule of not drinking anything an hour before curtain and trying to eat some salty foods beforehand. It works!
ArtMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/08
#39The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 12:16am
Lizzie, That's interesting. I already do the liquids thing...but more than one hour before. What does the salty foods do?
Updated On: 12/22/15 at 12:16 AM#40The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 12:19am
Retains liquids better. A dietitian friend (and also a regular theatregoer but with a larger bladder than mine) suggested I try it, and it voila. Marathon runners do this, too, so they don't lose too much sodium through sweat, or have to stop to pee too often.
ArtMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/08
#41The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 12:25am
I'll try that. I have to watch my liquid intake prior to movies also. Especially long ones.
#42The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 12:29am
I don't know if it makes a difference that I generally don't eat a lot of salty food anyway and then before a show I do, and my body realizes it has to behave, but it's worked well so far! I also try not to have any caffeine two hours before a regular-length show.
#43The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 12:32am
At the main touring house in Pittsburgh this is a frequent occurrence.
It does make me uncomfortable to have women around while I'm peeing, especially more exposed urinal settings. Maybe that's old-fashioned or sexist or something but it still makes me uncomfortable. And women would be uncomfortable with men in their bathrooms even though they do their business closed into stalls. I don't think their fear is being molested, but just having their privacy encroached which is what the men most likely feel.
But the most annoying aspect is the way these middle-aged women carry on. "Oh boys cover up I'm coming in! Oh-ho-ho!" Just use the goddam toilet and leave if you must. Don't make a bigger show than what's on stage.
And I do find it unfair that they are getting to go while many women are waiting elsewhere. But the issue of the women's room line is a problem that has yet to be solved.
broadwayguy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/03
#44The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 12:46am
Wonderful!
i saw this thread on the other board and have been laughing, then I saw this one and kept my trap shut until I saw a few posts similar to what I wanted to say.
First off, pulling the tape card is something I will not go anywhere. Next, I am a gay - as many know. Now that said...
I hate women barging I to the men's room. I have zero problem with unisex restrooms; I see them more often. My issue here is not of discomfort.
If I as a man DARED to approach the ladies room, there would be hell to pay. The double standard is ridiculous. As previously said, so is the entitlement of some women. I think this also goes back to the age old argument of gender equality, no offense intended, where women want to be treated the same as men, but still be extended certain privileges as the fairer sex... Any time I see a woman play that card, it grinds my gears.
Similar to earlier posts, I loathe when women barge in and make a production. I was recently holiday shopping and was put in That situation. A pack of soccer moms barged in, made a fuss telling the men to cover up as they all laughed and one was at the door trying to stop men to come in. As I washed my hands, one started yelling how we ned to learn to put the seat down.
Had I not been in a hurry or been in a different temperament, I would have read them all the riot act,
#45The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 1:10am
It's never even occurred to me as an adult to go into the restroom of a multi-stalled men's room, much less at the theatre. I think the only time I ever did something like this was when I was deemed too young to go into the women's restroom alone (maybe about 5 or so), and was at some furniture store with just my dad. He whisked me into the men's room with him, I did my thing, and he whisked me out.
Fellow users of the women's room: Please just get to know the bathroom locations in the nearby hotels, go there, get to the theatre, go there, and enjoy yourselves.
#46The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 2:23am
I don't like the idea of men and women using the same multi-stall restrooms, and it has nothing to do with a fear of assault. (I don't mind mixed private restrooms). Many women have troubles going "#2" in public restrooms.Having men around would be even worse. Also, I would feel like a voyeur watching a guy pee.
I've heard that Europeans have had mixed-sex restrooms for quite some time. They're starting to catch on here, apparently for an interesting reason: It avoids offending trans people who might be forced to use the restroom of their birth sex, rather than their gender. Since mixed-sex restrooms appear to be the wave of the future, I'll just have to get used to them.
Audrey
#47The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 2:30am
I must be unique because I don't give a fig if either sex sees me standing taking a piss---finish, a few shakes then tuck it away, wash my hands and away-what's the big deal ?
We're not going to change everyones' attitude about toilet behavour because that began with potty training.
Now watching me take a dump is an entirely different subject.
FlowerChild67
Stand-by Joined: 7/11/12
#48The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 5:56am
I've been in theaters (and other buildings- but I actually first saw it at a theater) that have two gender-neutral bathrooms and they work beautifully- the lines for women are cut in half, and men having to worry about women barging in and seeing them pee at the urinals. Men don't have urinals in their homes, I don't see any reason that they need them in public restrooms.
#49The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/22/15 at 7:52am
I think the bigger problem here is the size of the bathrooms at these theatres. I don't know about the womens bathrooms but the vast majority of Broadway theatres mens rooms have only 2 to 3 stalls and a couple of urinals. Most of these really don't accommodate the amount of people that are actually there and I'm sure the womens bathrooms are about the same size. Problem is a lot of the theatres don't have the room to make the bathrooms bigger.
Webster Hall has unisex bathrooms in its main room and they put someone in there who keeps inscents burning inside there. There are no urinals though, it's all stalls.
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