The Woman in White should win the Tony for Best Musical!!! — Page 3

My fan club has re-reunited...why don't you 2 get married. Anyways...FindyourGrail...i finally agree with you, you both shouldn't bother talking to me.

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amen, plus having a different point of view, means being unique, and not follow the crowds, and that always should be celebrated.

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"as I hate CATS as much as the next person"

I kinda like Cats. hehehe

You all have to realize that the days of a big show, like "Camelot" not getting nominated for best musical or best book and score are long since past. (It was only nominated for best actor, actress, conductor and sets. It won for actor and sets.)

In the past few decades, such deathless shows as "Starmites" "Leader of the Pack" and "Merlin" have been nominated for best musical, book and score.

So, you're all going to basically suck it up and accept the fact that shows that you think are crap are going to get nominations and possibly win some of them.

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I haven't been paying too much attention but Muscle has had a few nasty quips here and there in this thread too!

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I really want The Color Purple to win. The musical has amazing music, choreography, cast, story, and people backing it up. I think it is fron runner for this years Tony.

Thank you, Carl.

Thank you.

haha...you are making my day...you said before "Don't bother with him Foa. It's like talking to a five year old". But you keep talking to me still. What a loser, hiding his/her pathetic self behind a pic of the talented Sara Ramirez. I feel bad for her, someone without any manners using her picture like that.
Thanks Cherjim, All for Laura and Piazzaslight. What i wrote is just a thread about my thoughts. I expressed my wish to see WIW winning a Tony. It probably won't happen. But it is just a thought i wanted to share. And i didn't want to get insulted because i liked either WIW or Bombay Dreams. Most people on this board are somehow outcasts, musicals are not something so mainstream like pop or rock music, musical fans are a minority. So to be bashed by this little community, is just simply pathetic. Maybe Carl Magnum, Foa or FYG feel like i posted what i did to be made fun of. So hopefully they were happy at least for the minute they wrote words to put me down.
Most likely these people were made fun of in school for being gay, or for being into theatre. I was gay bashed in high school and my own gay friends make fun of me because i listen to showtunes. But the difference is that i don't need to make fun of others to feel good about myself. I already feel great about myself and about my fantastic taste for theatre and my individuality.

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Updated On: 4/26/06 at 01:13 AM

Of course Maria and Michael deserve tony's!!!

On a side note, We all have just made comments about being able to express our own opinions, and then a comment is made about Muscle liking bombay dreams, so we shouldn't respect him. That is childish and insecure. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. Thanks.

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Muscle..
I think the thread took a nasty turn when you made the ridiculous assumption that WIW was too complex for American audiences and that's why it didn't do well here. You just insulted everyone who doesn't agree with you claiming if they didn't like WIW they just didn't "get it".
What makes that so funny is that WIW didn't even turn a profit in London. And there is nothing complex about WIW, not the story, not the book, not the score, and certainly not the lyrics. The only thing I had to concentrate on while watching WIW was not throwing up due to motion sickness from the projections.
Also your logic that shows are good because they make money in London is also a little off. There have been many shows that have made money on both sides of the Atlantic but that has nothing to do with their artistic merit. Look at Cats...one of the longest running shows in broadway history. Does that make it fantastic theater?

Updated On: 4/26/06 at 08:42 AM

"i must confess i am somehow wishing Tarzan is a big big hit...i have no desire to see it, BUT it took Movin' Out OUT of Broadway and it deserves to last for 20 years, because of it."

That's pretty harsh. So it's ok to slam Movin' Out, but not Woman in White? Kind of a double-standard, isn't it? And I don't really understand the rationale behind cheering on a show no matter how bad it is, and wishing for a 20-year run, simply because it booted out another show that was quite well-respected and popular, but you personally didn't like it. I hate Phantom of the Opera, but I'm glad others love it and it has kept actors employed for YEARS.

"You liked Bombay Dreams! So why should we take anything you say or think seriously?"

I loved Bombay Dreams. I wish I could see it again. That was such a fun show.

"Look at Cats...one of the longest running shows in broadway history. Does that make it fantastic theater?"

Actually, it was highly innovative when it opened. The concept, costumes, makeup, set design, and hit score made it an international phenomenon, all of which are artistic elements. I know it's fun to pooh-pooh twenty-some-odd years later, but it was quite spectacular in its day. So yes, I would say it was fantastic theatre. I think any show that can attract millions in various languages and a song whose melody is recognized almost anywhere in the world would count as "fantastic theatre". Will it be included in the college textbook for intellectual snobs? No, because they are too busy chattering about Sondheim to recognize that "theatre" is not just about the parts, but also the sum.

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Matt, you are absolutely right. I never wished any Broadway show to close. I do think that "Movin' Out" was a ballet and didn't belong on Broadway. But that is just my point of view and i don't expect people to agree with me.

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Agreed.

Muscle's love for BOMBAY DREAMS is irrelevant. While he might get carried away with thinking it's a major theatrical work of great importance (which it's not), it just doesn't make sense for others to say "OH, well you like this flop show, so your opinion is void."

I loved TABOO. Saw it 14 times. Does that make my opinion in-valid?

I also really liked BOMBAY DREAMS. I thought there were some glorious moments score-wise. The sets were wonderful, choregraphy inspiring, and some of the book very funny. The show was doomed on Broadway before it even opened - and with overly harsh critics, that didn't help it's chances either.

Had BOMBAY DREAMS opened this season, the reviews would be, by default, much more positive. That show deserved a healthier run. I didn't think it was great theatre, but I sure loved that show.

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