The stage door management at A STEADY RAIN is absolutely HORRENDOUS- Page 5

[Mistress_Spouzic]

Posted: 9/29/09 at 3:48am

I dont understand why we have to have the entitlement arguement every 3rd day. If the man signs autographs, its a reasonable expectation that you might get one. If the actor can appreciate someone waiting for a five second exchange, then thats all that matters.

And while I agree that the main function of any barricade and stage door is for actors to safely exist, part of making that happen has to include avoiding security actions that might anger the mob and possibly incite a riot- theres a helluva lot more of THEM than security any night. Its just common sense. Ive not seen Steady Rain but if theyre doing something that regularly pisses off the people standing there then theyre just asking for one of the so called crazies to... well... go crazy and that wouldn't be good for anyone: the actors, patrons, theatre owner or producer, who might find themselves either injured, sued or both.

[Fosse76]

Posted: 9/29/09 at 10:27am

"Not true at every Shubert House, Fosse. If it's the crew Im thinking of, actually, they're a private security company. They're typically AT the Shubert, but float to all the Shubert houses. They'll be there tomorrow night for the opening, as well as some of the other stage door men who double as personal security for the Shubert Organization."

You are somewhat incorrect. While I don't know for a fact whether or not they are working for a private security firm (which is probably accurate), they ARE all NYPD (or former NYPD). Also, they aren't "typically" at the Shubert. They rove to all theaters owned by the Shuberts. You usually see the same ones at specific houses, but that doesn't mean they don't go to other houses. They are more prominent at high-profile shows. There are typically one or two assigned to a house during the show, and will often need to assist at the stage door of another show if it doesn't interfere with the end time of the show they are working. These guys are at EVERY performance.

[Calvin]

Posted: 9/29/09 at 10:33am

Any thread that gets CJR to appear is automatically a good thread

[CJR]

Posted: 9/29/09 at 9:34pm

Calvin, I love you.

Fosse, you should re-read what I said. And no, they are not ALL former NYPD, though Im sure some of them are. Considering I know a great deal of them personally, I can say that for a fact (as with the same fact that it is definitely a private security company that works with the Shubert Organization - never mind that I have that security company's business card in my wallet).

Any additional security tends to come with the actors (Denzel Washington came with his own crew in addition to the Shubert boys).

[Fosse76]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 10:54am

"Fosse, you should re-read what I said. And no, they are not ALL former NYPD, though Im sure some of them are. Considering I know a great deal of them personally, I can say that for a fact (as with the same fact that it is definitely a private security company that works with the Shubert Organization - never mind that I have that security company's business card in my wallet)."

You're right...some are current NYPD. But all the ones that work the Schoenfeld, Broadhurst and Shubert definitely are. I know all of them personally as well, since I work with them every day. So claiming to have their company's business card in your wallet really isn't impressive...it's rather a lame attempt at credibility.

[beewai]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 1:11pm

One might argue it's no more lame than you saying that you work with them every day. You are both awesome insiders, the p*ssing contest is a tie. Your insider trophies are in the mail. Xo.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 3:44pm

"If its ridiculous, why comment on it? Its a democracy, correct? So if people feel aggrieved regarding issues with the theatre, are they not entitled to say so? Personally I dont think I used the word horrendous - that would be far too kind for the sd management".

Dead on, it's a Democracy (well, a Republic, actually) so people comment on it because they think it's ridiculous. One person posts an opinion, and the next may actually post an opposing opinion. And if you think the word "horrendous" is far too kind, what would you use? Something even more hyperbolic?

"One might argue it's no more lame than you saying that you work with them every day. You are both awesome insiders, the p*ssing contest is a tie".

Yeah, except not really, beewai. Fosse76 is correct in this case. CJR is not, (though welcome back anyway).

[Magdalene]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 3:55pm

I am so enjoying this thread...

Security hasn't behaved badly, the crowds are large and they are doing the best they can. If you don't get an autograph, is the world going to end?

[CJR]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 5:22pm

How much more clear can I be with what Im saying so that you wont keep misunderstanding?

The business card only pointed to yes it is in fact a private security company. Nothing more than that.

Maybe you should talk to some of your coworkers, because you seem to be terribly misinformed for someone who "works with them every day" (Im so impressed with that, by the way. Only not so much) - not all of the security boys were associated with the NYPD (past or present).

Although Im not sure why anything Im saying - or YOURE saying - matters anyway. There has been a stage door man posting on this thread and nobody's paying them a bit of mind either.

Updated On: 9/30/09 at 05:22 PM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 6:22pm

"You're right...some are current NYPD. But all the ones that work the Schoenfeld, Broadhurst and Shubert definitely are" - Fosse 76

This is a correct statement.

"not all of the security boys were associated with the NYPD (past or present)" -CJR

This is an incorrect statement. If they were working at the Schoenfeld, Broadhurst or Shubert, they are/were NYPD guys.

"Although Im not sure why anything Im saying - or YOURE saying - matters anyway".

Then why bother coming out of the woodwork to say it? You might as well resurrect that "Antonio Bandaras in Chicago is a LIE" thread you so love instead.

"(Im so impressed with that, by the way. Only not so much)"

Why so nasty about this? I can't imagine Fosse76 is remotely interested in impressing you. Fosse is so much further up the food chain on Broadway than you are it isn't even funny.

[beewai]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 6:27pm

I wasn't responding to whose post was most accurate, but rather the slight "i'm more of an insider than you are" digs - And my response was not solely a criticism -- but maybe even a compliment as this thread has been totally entertaining to read.

"Broadway Food Chain" is easily my favorite phrase ever (followed closely by "It's not even funny") and I plan on using each at least 3 times a week.

Forever Entertained,
Beewai
Updated On: 9/30/09 at 06:27 PM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 9/30/09 at 6:40pm

What beewai, we don't get a win, place or show?

It is pretty funny what people will decide to take so seriously

[CJR]

Posted: 10/1/09 at 3:23am

This is an incorrect statement. If they were working at the Schoenfeld, Broadhurst or Shubert, they are/were NYPD guys.

Funny, I know 4 of them who aren't.

Trust, this thread didn't bring me out of the woodwork. Nor do I care what Fosse does for a living (however, I find it laughable that you assume and point out they are "higher up on the broadway food chain than I'll ever be". Just because I dont do this anymore, doesn't mean Im completely out of the loop) or the veracity of anything they've said in this thread.

Just because I don't post (and it's rare that I feel the desire), doesn't mean I don't still read.

[wolfpit228]

Posted: 10/1/09 at 4:02am

I know Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber has an opinion on this - he told me on the phone while I was at A Steady Rain the other day, although I didn quite catch all of what he said - cos Hugh Jackman kept shouting.
Updated On: 10/1/09 at 04:02 AM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 10/1/09 at 9:53am

"I find it laughable that you assume and point out they are "higher up on the broadway food chain than I'll ever be"."

I don't assume anything. You've both made it perfectly clear to me who you are through your posts.

Btw, when you actually quote somebody, as you did me, you use exactly the same words that they did. It's easy - just cut and paste, then put quotations around that. I have faith in you, CJR - you can ascend as high in the food chain as you desire - I merely pointed out Fosse is higher on the food chain than you are at the moment, not " than I'll ever be", which were words I never wrote.

I will repeat what I said before: It is pretty funny what people will decide to take so seriously

And agree with Magdalene:

"Security hasn't behaved badly, the crowds are large and they are doing the best they can. If you don't get an autograph, is the world going to end"?

Lastly, wolfpit, I owe you an apology: Hugh and I got to arguing over who was more absurdist, Beckett or Ibsen, and it got a little heated. Please tell Andy I'm sorry I disrupted your call?