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#27

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

I enjoyed TARZAN.

I loved the music and the story.

Plus, I love Jenn Gambatese and Josh Strickland.
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#28

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

Pirate Queen was a giant mess of stolen songs, scenes and sets that has gone down as the biggest financial loss in theatre history.

Tarzan ran for more than a year.

Im not trying to be bias but I just dont understand the comparison. I would more likely compare Pirate Queen to In My Life, because I enjoyed both shows for all the wrong reasons, spending most of my time laughing at how terrible they were.
#29

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

Tarzan could have been much more successful if someone had been intelligent enough to NOT hire Bob Crowley as a director. tarzan is entertaining, whether you think it is good or bad. Pirate Queen was purely tedious..... and poor Linda Balgord was forced to spend three hours shrieking.
#32

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

The reason I ask this is because I saw both of those shows on a school NY trip in April, and we all agreed they both were awful, but we were split on what was the better (worse) show.


Even though I was tired of both shows by the second act, I personally thought Pirate Queen was better, mainly because of the dancing and scattered energy throughout the show. That, and it lacked Phil Collins, which is always a plus :).
#33

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

Oh, and Josh Strickland sounds like a woman, I'm sorry. I sat towards the back, and seriously couldn't tell if it was Tarzan or his mother who was singing half the time... I thought Tarzan was supposed to be the definitive man, not wishy-washy gendered.


Thom Miller should've gotten the role. (he was the understudy for a while, and an acquaintance of mine)
#34

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

"The reason I ask this is because I saw both of those shows on a school NY trip in April..."

I'm sorry.


ETA: Actually, I don't mean that 100%. I haven't seen the shows; I was going by the general consensus of what people on BWW thought.
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Updated On: 6/27/07 at 09:40 AM

#37

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

Really? I think he was understudy for the first showings.


I know at least he was incredibly close to making the part.


And it didn't have to be a herculean Tarzan, I just didn't want to have to question the gender of him every time he sang :/
#38

re: This is going to seem trivial, but: Tarzan Vs. Pirate Queen

I made it all the way through Tarzan - I left PQ after the first act it was so bad.

Hey, if nothing else, the opening of Tarzan IS pretty spectacular - and it had Schuler Hensely which automatically makes it a little less than awful.
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#41

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

How in the HELL could Tarzan be better than Pirate Queen? I love Pirate Queen and not as a "guilty pleasure". It was simply a really good show with beautiful music. Tarzan was exciting in the beginning but unfortunately, it quickly ran out and the rest of the show just went from awkward to weak to just idiotic.

The only reason I can see why people who don't like either would choose Tarzan is simply because they need bright colors and shiny things to keep their attention.
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#42

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

Or, maybe they really didn't like The Pirate Queen.

Personally, I wouldn't pick either.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#43

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

No, I saw one of the first Broadway previews and he wasn't in the cast. The original understudies on Broadway, and until last winter, were Josh Kibak and Kevin Massey. He may have come close, but certaily wasn't there. At the final press conference before casting was anounced, 'tarzan' was sung by Strickland and Kobak.
#46

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

The only men to play, or undrestudy, the totle role in Tarzan on Broadway have been Josh Strickland, Joshua Kobak, Kevin Massey, and Nicholas Rodriguez.

Rob Evan was spot on a great Kerchak from Day One. kerchak IS a caricature in many ways and larger than life... and domainating and big.. and, shocking, very conflicted about the choices he makes!
#47

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

Like I said, I sat towards the back. To me it looked like he just had an unenergetic aura with an over-dramatic voice.

Every time he spoke I kept thinking to myself "my god, just shut up"
#48

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

bjh -- both shows completely sucked - two of the worst shows I've seen -- but yeah, I have to admit I liked Tarzan better than Pirate Queen. Part of it may have to do with expectation - I expected PQ to blow me away and all it did was blow. With Tarzan, I didn't expect much and got what I expected.
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#49

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

"Pirate Queen was a giant mess of stolen songs, scenes and sets that has gone down as the biggest financial loss in theatre history."

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and bet that you're saying they were stolen from Les Mis? Um? It was kind of written by the same guys, so they kind of can't steal their own material?

Pirate Queen was my favorite show. (oooo...is this the part where I get shot?) I loved it. The cast was incredible, the sets were fantastic, the lighting was to die for, and I adored the score. People were looking for perfection. *News flash* there's no such thing as perfection. But the show was FAR from being as horrible as everyone says it is. Far from it.

*end rant*

On that note, I think PQ was much better than Tarzan.

and now I'll just sit here and wait for someone to attack me. *gets popcorn ready*
#50

re: 'There was nothing worth while about Tarzan...'

<< Um? It was kind of written by the same guys, so they kind of can't steal their own material? >>

Technically it's "legal", but that would make them boring and lazy songwriters.

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