"Too Darn Hot" quick question

[pacificnorthwest]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 7:58am

I was too enthralled to notice how many minutes long it was. Can anyone tell me?

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 8:12am

pacificnorthwest said: "I was too enthralled to notice how many minutes long it was. Can anyone tell me?"

I don't think there's a recording yet of the current revival.

The song list of the Marin Mazzie revival lists the number at 5:14. One studio recording has it at 5:24.

Oddly, nearly every other recording has it at 4 minutes or less. (The OBCR may have been limited by a first release on 78s; I'm not sure.)

Updated On: 3/21/19 at 08:12 AM

[pacificnorthwest]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 8:53am

Thanks so much!

But, wow, it sure seemed longer than that. And maybe it was.

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 8:54am

It was long. From the first notes on the clarinet to the end, I'd say it was 8-10 minutes.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 9:19am

GavestonPS said: "pacificnorthwest said: "I was too enthralled to notice how many minutes long it was. Can anyone tell me?"

I don't think there's a recording yet of the current revival.

The song list of the Marin Maze revival lists the number at 5:14. One studio recording has it at 5:24.

Oddly, nearly every other recording has it at 4 minutes or less. (The OBCR may have been limited by a first release on 78s; I'm not sure.)"

You ARE aware that dance music on cast recordings is abridged and not the full number as seen at the theatre.  Until fairly recently, most cast recordings continue to abridge  the dance music.  Just because the track listing on past cast recordings state a running time, that is not the length of time the actual number is performed at the theatre.  

[pacificnorthwest]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 11:32am

re: "You ARE aware that dance music on cast recordings is abridged and not the full number as seen at the theatre.  Until fairly recently, most cast recordings continue to abridge  the dance music.  Just because the track listing on past cast recordings state a running time, that is not the length of time the actual number is performed at the theatre. "

I am in no way trying to pick a fight here and won't engage if that's where this goes.

But I'm wondering why it was necessary to frame your question with an emphasis that suggests the person you're talking to is stupid,  re: "You ARE aware..."

Why not, "Are you aware...?" Or "Did you know...?

You can -- we all can -- make points here without attaching judgment.

I say that with kindness. I hope you take it that way.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 12:23pm

I say that with kindness. I hope you take it that way.

I just wish people stopped reading into everything like if they were legal documents. 

I simply responded with a detailed response.   No need to dissect it and make it personal.  Sprung is here.  Enjoy it.  

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 7:37pm

In addition to abridging dance music on cast recordings, tempos are often sped up for the recording as well, either to compensate for the lack of the visual thrill of the associated choreography, or because the desired tempo from the creative team is just not actually possible to achieve when actors need to sing and dance it.

[LuPita2]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 7:42pm

Sprung is here. That's my favorite.

Do people think we will get a cast recording of this? It's been 19 years since we had a recording (Broadway), so I am hoping so. The talent is too good to not have it recorded!

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/20/19 at 9:23pm

I would venture that a recording will happen. Roundabout's track record for releasing cast recordings for their musicals is pretty good (not 100%, but still pretty high).

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 3:21am

BrodyFosse123 said: "GavestonPS said: "pacificnorthwest said: "I was too enthralled to notice how many minutes long it was. Can anyone tell me?"

I don't think there's a recording yet of the current revival.

The song list of the Marin Maze revival lists the number at 5:14. One studio recording has it at 5:24.

Oddly, nearly every other recording has it at 4 minutes or less. (The OBCR may have been limited by a first release on 78s; I'm not sure.)"

You ARE aware that dance music on cast recordings is abridged and not the full number as seen at the theatre. Until fairly recently, most cast recordings continue to abridgethe dance music. Just because the track listing on past cast recordings state a running time, that is not the length of time the actual number is performed at the theatre."

Thank you. I have been listening to OBCR recordings and attending the theater for over a half-century. But "Always True to You in My Fashion" is not primarily a dance number and I offered the info I could find in a search of iTunes--a fact I was careful to note. I suspect the difference in performance times has more to do with limiting the number of choruses than with cutting dance music, but I can't prove it without a time machine.

But since I specifically referred to the limited times available on 78 records (before my time, but I can read), you might have guessed I knew something about this.

(Thank you, pacificnorthwest. Brody, you're an ass. (As in donkey, not hole. Board rules, you know.))

Updated On: 3/21/19 at 03:21 AM

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 3:24am

AEA AGMA SM said: "In addition to abridging dance music on cast recordings, tempos are often sped up for the recording as well, either to compensate for the lack of the visual thrill of the associated choreography, or because the desired tempo from the creative team is just not actually possible to achieve when actors need to sing and dance it."

The most extreme example is THE ROAR OF THE GREASEPAINT.... Having done the show a couple of times, there is no way the numbers can be performed as fast as they did in order to fit them all on an LP.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 11:38am

(Thank you, pacificnorthwest. Brody, you're an ass. (As in donkey, not hole. Board rules, you know.)

Love this.

This just made my Thursday.  

Hahaha.

Much love!   

[SomethingPeculiar]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 11:48am

I wonder if the estate/Tams Witmark will now license this revised version? (They currently offer the original and the 99 revisal.) As Jesse Green pointed out, the music arrangements are vastly superior here, and I liked Amanda Green's edits.

[sing_dance_love]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 12:48pm

If you check youtube, the clip of the number from the filmed version of the last revival runs about 10:50. From entering the scene till end of number. Now, I don’t think the dance arrangement in this revival is an *exact* recreation by any means, but it is similar and I imagine the runtime follows suit.

Updated On: 3/21/19 at 12:48 PM

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 6:22pm

Virginia Musical Theatre in Virginia Beach did Kiss Me, Kate last season. Heather Parcells starred. From the opening notes from the orchestra to the end of the song, "Too Darn Hot" clocked in at 12 minutes. It was incredible. 

Updated On: 3/21/19 at 06:22 PM

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 3/22/19 at 1:53am

BrodyFosse123 said: "(Thank you, pacificnorthwest. Brody, you're an ass. (As in donkey, not hole. Board rules, you know.)

Love this.

This just made my Thursday.

Hahaha.

Much love! "

Thank you, my internet friend, for taking my aside in the spirit it was intended. No harm done and no need for a feud between us. [heart emoji/I don't know how to make one here]

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 3/22/19 at 1:55am

sing_dance_love said: "If you check youtube, the clip of the number from the filmed version of the last revival runs about 10:50. From entering the scene till end of number. Now, I don’t think the dance arrangement in this revival is an *exact* recreation by any means, but it is similar and I imagine the runtime follows suit."

Thank you. Much better source than iTunes. I haven't quite got the habit of checking YouTube for such things. Blame it on my (lack of) youth.