Posted: 11/19/18 at 7:50pm
Hey, just curious what is waitress gonna do about Josie? Are they gonna change the sign? Whats going to happen when they need an understudy? Would it be changed to Joe?
Posted: 11/19/18 at 7:59pm
Posted: 11/19/18 at 8:05pm
mailhandler777 said “Only thing I'm curious about is in Take It From An Old Ma'am if Josie and Jenna are gonna do their dance. I mean Jenna dances with Becky leading up to that song."
I know someone involved with the production and they’ve told me all the blocking and most of not all of the script has remained the same for Josie. I think they only changed the lines about Joe being involved with women to have her be involved with men but I may be wrong about that.
Posted: 11/19/18 at 8:12pm
natashalost said: "mailhandler777 said “Only thing I'm curious about is in Take It From An Old Ma'am if Josie and Jenna are gonna do their dance. I mean Jenna dances with Becky leading up to that song."
I know someone involved with the production and they’ve told me all the blocking and mostof not all of the script has remained the same for Josie. I think they only changed the lines about Joe being involved with women to have her be involved with men but I may be wrong about that."
I bet they changed the "She lost the baby though, close call" to "I lost the baby though, close call"
Posted: 11/19/18 at 8:30pm
Posted: 11/19/18 at 10:33pm
andrewftw said:
I bet they changed the "She lost the baby though, close call" to "I lost the baby though, close call""
Since you opened the door, this is something I was alluding to in the other thread. This seems like a terrible choice. Is this the most pivotal part of the show? No. But it shows a lack of care for the specificity of the characters to treat this gender flip like it can be done easily. Especially when this show includes a song/sentiment like "Everything Changes." And this is just one point where a gender flip messes with what the show is saying.
Posted: 11/19/18 at 10:55pm
Posted: 11/19/18 at 11:49pm
natashalost said: "Exactly, Andrew! I just asked my source so I’ll correct what I said before. The only substantial change to the script is the “knocked up summer” monologue which originally said that Joe knocked a girl up, it’s now been changed to say that Josie was the one who got knocked up. They also changed the name of the restaurant to “Jo’s Pie Diner” not “Joe’s Pie Diner” "
It’s still Joe’s.
Posted: 11/19/18 at 11:51pm
Just want to say I was there tonight at June Squibb's opening (forgetting it was her first show until in the theatre). In the playbill the character is still listed as Joe. In the show the sign still says "Joe". Nicolette kept calling her Jo, but Cal in the kitchen called her Josie, To be 100% honest I didn't even notice what was said in the monologue because I loved June Squibb so much! She did miss some lines and Nicolette had to help her out, but she was wonderful! Nicolette gave her roses at the curtain call and the look on Ms. Squibb's face was priceless. To her, it was so unexpected. She just had her mouth open and started crying. Her and Nicolette kept hugging and then she as pushed out for her own bow. It was absolutely priceless! June Squibb was wonderful, and for anyone first time seeing ti...you would never know it was written for a male actor.
Posted: 11/20/18 at 1:23am
Posted: 11/20/18 at 10:33am
mailhandler777 said: "^Do they still dance during Take It From An Old Ma'am?
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Yes pretty much. Slightly modified as they have done with previous Joes based on age, dance ability, etc. Its actually remarkable how little had to be changed to make it easily work with a woman.
Updated On: 11/20/18 at 10:33 AM
Posted: 11/20/18 at 10:45am
KathyNYC2 said: "mailhandler777 said: "^Do they still dance during Take It From An Old Ma'am?
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Yes pretty much."
If that's indeed the title change, I'm sorry that's just odd...gender flips aren't as easy as people make them out to be. Even if it were easy from a character perspective, it's usually not from a vocal pedagogy perspective, or even vice versa. The recent gender flip for Company is an example. Character wise, it's easy to gender flip Bobby, but Being Alive is so obviously written for a male voice, it sounds straight up strange in a female voice.
Posted: 11/20/18 at 11:27am
JennH said: .The recent gender flip for Company is an example. Character wise, it's easy to gender flip Bobby, but Being Alive is so obviously written for a male voice, it sounds straight up strange in a female voice."
Tell that to Patti Lupone, Bernadette Peters and the countless other divas who have famously (and successfully) covered the song.
Posted: 11/20/18 at 12:23pm
JSquared2 said: "JennH said:.The recent gender flip for Company is an example. Character wise, it's easy to gender flip Bobby, but Being Alive is so obviously written for a male voice, it sounds straight up strange in a female voice."
Tell that to Patti Lupone, Bernadette Peters and the countless other divas who have famously (and successfully) covered the song.
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I'm perfectly aware they did this. To me, it's aurally odd. The range and the way it's pedagogically written is for how a male voice functions. As for taste and liking how these ladies did this song is another story.
Posted: 11/20/18 at 5:01pm
JSquared2 said: "JennH said:.The recent gender flip for Company is an example. Character wise, it's easy to gender flip Bobby, but Being Alive is so obviously written for a male voice, it sounds straight up strange in a female voice."
Tell that to Patti Lupone, Bernadette Peters and the countless other divas who have famously (and successfully) covered the song.
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Kerry Ellis, Idina Menzel, Lea Salonga and even Jessica Vosk(in a mashup with Help) have all covered this song also.
Posted: 11/21/18 at 10:28pm
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