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#1

Why I Will NEVER See Phantom on Broadway Again

Okay, so I love the music of the Phantom and remember loving it when I first saw the touring show, then Toronto when I was in eighth grade, then on the touring show again. This was before I was 15.

Imagine my surprise that, when I saw Phantom last year on Broadway, I was very underwhelmed. The show seemed overlong, bloated and the actors seemed to have been there far too long, and a bit hammy. The music still rocked, the set-pieces were great, but I just wasn't awed and kind of let down. Kind of meaning majorly. Everyone has had this experience: loving something completely during your childhood and, upon revisiting when you are an adult, not loving it as much.

Then I saw Phantom in Las Vegas.

I'm in love again.

The show is 90 minutes, no intermission.

Every possible bit of fat has been cut from the show.

The acting seems better: Younger and more vivacious.

It's a completely different chandelier that is bigger (the Phantom actually gets on it and hangs from it for a bit in one of the added moments to this production) and falls much differently than the Broadway version (straight down and stopping just feet above the audience's head level).

The theater is better: there are faux theatrical boxes filled with wax dummies that line the walls and watch the spectacle with us.

The music is still phenomenal.

The set pieces are bigger. The staircase for "Masquerade" is HUGE and fileld with even more dummies in costume: It takes your breathe away. The Phantom's traps near the end are more ingenious and, again, bigger. There is a set of the entire exterior of the opera house in this one, complete with fireworks.

Now that I've seen the Las Vegas Phantom, I've fallen in love with Phantom again. That version IS the definitive version of Webber's Phantom of the Opera to me, and I will never sit through the bloated Broadway version again.

I cannot recommend highly enough that you go see it for yourself.

Updated On: 8/3/08 at 09:09 PM

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Yayyy that means more tickets available for the rest of us to the Phantom on Broadway!

The Vegas production is terrific....but its for Vegas. The original New York production is a classic and it shouldn't be touched.
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Sounds great! If I ever make my way over to Vegas I want to check it out.

I saw the show for my first time on broadway recently (id seen tours in boston) and was underwhelmed to say the least. And to add to that, I was seated next to a school group of 50+ obnoxious unattentive kids who were chatting throughout the show and did not kindly turn off their cellphones. But that's besides the point.
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Thank you for the comparison! I've seen the show both on tour and on Broadway as well and am seeing it in Vegas on Wednesday. I, too, felt underwhelmed by the Broadway production, but your post has given me some hope about the Vegas production!
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See the condensed version in Vegas instead of the "bloated" full production one. Why am I suddenly thinking of how many people prefer the Cliff Notes to reading a full novel?
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The whole idea of watching a show while surrounded by wax dummies in boxes sounds exciting--if you are in Madame Tussaud's or your local funeral home!
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I've heard great things about Vegas, but I'll always like my Phantom musty.
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I'm excited to hear that you loved it. I'm not a huge Phantom fan, but I've really wanted to see the Vegas version for awhile. I will definitely have to do so on my next Vegas trip. re: Why I Will NEVER See Phantom on Broadway Again
So, that was the Drowsy Chaperone. Oh, I love it so much. I know it's not a perfect show...but it does what a musical is supposed to do. It takes you to another world, and it gives you a little tune to carry with you in your head for when you're feeling blue. Ya know?
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frogs_fan85, the music in the show is live and it is not canned at all.

I was just listening to a podcast on youtube that had Boggess and one actor who were both part of the original Vegas cast of Phantom. They were reading some of the reviews on the podcast from when the show first opened. Some people were happy with the 90 minute version of the show, and others thought that the show lost its original spark by cutting down the run time.

It was also interesting to hear about how the show was changed from an acting perspective. The actor playing the phantom talked about how the Phantom has a lot of breaks in the Broadway or touring proudctions. But, because this one is more condensed there aren't thoes breaks anymore. The actor playing The Phantom is either onstage performing or backstage getting ready for his next scene. On Broadway that isn't the case. I haven't seen the Vegas production. But, for example, on Broadway the Phantom comes on at the end of Angel of Music and is on until the end of the lair scene. Then he isn't onstage until Poor Fool He Makes Me laugh. There is a big gap there that isn't in the Vegas production.

Both actors had said that because the way of doing the show is different compared to the full length productions neither of them thought that they could go from doing the Vegas production to doing the full length version of the show. I wonder if Boggess's mind has changed on that considering that I could easilly see her making a great Christine on Broadway when she is done in Little Mermaid.

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Updated On: 8/3/08 at 11:35 PM

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If someone pays for my trip to Vegas I will gladly see it but since I'm on the East Coast I think I'll keep seeing it on Broadway.

Wasn't Sierra Boggess in Phantom In Vegas?
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The show sucks either way. That thing on broadway should have closed 18 years ago. It's okay theater, but things have come and gone that were a million times better than phantom will ever be, no matter how big they decide to make that damn chandelier.
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I like the show and I do think it is good theatre. Not the best that is out there or that has ever been made. But, better then something like Wicked or any of the shows that get a teen girl fanbase. I think that the one problem for this show is that they used onstage visuals that were great for the time and were cool. Now, with up to date technical things going on nightly in something like Wicked, Phantom has shown its age in that department. I think that the real problem for this show is that they had it been this big spectical. And, that doesn't work today because the things that they are doing are things that look old and dated.

I think that the Vegas production fixed that up. And, I remember reading about how they are able to do pretty much whatever they want in a show in Vegas because Vegas isn't a big union city compared to NYC. I remember reading an interview with Avenue Q opening in Vegas and they were talking about some of the differences between working in Vegas as oppose to NYC. They were talking about how they wanted to get a fan on the cealing on Broadway because it gets very hot onstage. They then realized that they would have to get in touch with like 5 different unions to do that. Whereas in Vegas that wasn't the case. Also, keep in mind that in Vegas a lot of the stage hand stuff is all done privetly and not done by unions at all.
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The show sucks either way. That thing on broadway should have closed 18 years ago.

Yeah, really bad news when a show keeps packing 'em in for decades, satisfying audiences who come back again and again and providing secure employment for dozens and dozens of theater performers, musicians and artisans. Terrible!

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I agree. That there must be something about this show to keep it open for as long as it has been open for. There is a reason why it has been playing to full houses all these years.
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I'm with Robert Taylor. I'm not even usually much one for spectacle, but I don't think I can ever go back to the Broadway production after seeing what Hal Prince did in Vegas.
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I don't understand why they can't close the Broadway Phantom for a few days/weeks in the off months and spruce up the show a bit. Surely they have the technology now to make the chandelier fall quicker. Also, and I know this is probably a touchy point, but why can't they update the orchestrations? It's hard to get into the show when it sounds so damn 80s. I understand that maybe be its kitsch factor, but why can't they make it sound more modern? The show needs to grow with the times instead of being this museum piece.
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I haven't seen it in Las Vegas, but I think it's good for both productions to exist.

Even now I convince outsiders to New York to see it at the Majestic -- as a piece of history, if anything else.

Since 1988, I've seen it in the city 5 times. It has never ceased to amaze me, how it has managed to hold up over the decades.

But I agree with the comment about cell phones. Why the hell do Phantom viewers feel it is okay to read the program during the production with their cell lights on?! After all, New York isn't DISNEYLAND or LAS VEGAS!!!

Oops, f*ck! Maybe it is.

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Hest,

The cuts are fairly small in most cases, barely noticeable.

The things that I noticed were that most of the "period" opera songs were significantly shortened and a verse of "Think of Me" was dropped. The whole "Hand at the level of your eye" was dropped as well.

Of course dialogue was tweaked and redone to bring things to a head faster as well.

And, thankfully, the whole ghostly organ bit that brings inadvertent laughs to the Broadway version. That ALWAYS stuck out like a sore thumb.
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"Why am I suddenly thinking of how many people prefer the Cliff Notes to reading a full novel?"

When I was in college I used to buy the Cliff Notes and then sit there correcting them because they were FULL of mistakes.
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