Wicked's choreography
Wicked's choreography
#0Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:40amIs it just me, or is Wicked's choreography godawful? This is coming from a die-hard Wicked fan, btw. As much as I love the show, the choreography makes me cringe and want to look away.
#1re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:44amI actually like it. I'm a Cilento fan.
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#2re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:45am
I don't know if I would say awful, but it can really not be called dancing, as some have tried to call it. Although in No one mourns the wicked-the choreography is not impressive at all!
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Updated On: 9/3/05 at 12:45 AM
#3re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:50am
What Choreography? Take a look at "What is this feeling" and all you see are the two leads walking all over the stage. It seems akward at times. I actually like the show, but find that parts of it are pretty clunky.
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#4re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:51amwell it's not a dancy show... just in dancing through life-which still is very minor. and i don't know if this counts as choreography, but i find the ensembles "movements" in like no one mourns the wicked and finale, you know, how like a few at a time turn and come forward towards the audience. you know? lol well i think that's cool, and with the music and singing is very powerful.
#5re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:52amthe way he designed it was supposed to be different than anything before... it was supposed to be "Ozian" rather than conventional. You were supposed to go... Oh... that's.. different... which I think, it the general reaction.
that's a really big mic...
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#6re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:53amI find it moreso to be just fancy staging. The only real dance number is dancing through life and I hardly would find that one number to constitute as the show having actual dance routines with real choreography. Its ok, but I mean I don't go into wicked expecting cats, chorus line, or movin out sequences
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#7re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:54ami thought the one short day dancing was really good. i agree with Jess925 about the music being poweful, the minimal choreogrpahy is cool.
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#8re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 1:18am
The choreography reminds me of a bad Britney Spears music video. I swear it's from "Hit Me Baby One More Time". The boys caressing the girls legs in DTL. Oy.
But is it me or in the DTL sequence, do they do pirouettes?
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Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#9re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 1:28am
You call that choreography? :o)
Personally, I think Cilento is probably the worst so-called choreographer on Broadway. I don't understand how he keeps getting jobs, let alone Tony nominations. When I saw Aida in its pre-Broadway run in Chicago, I though Jacki Chan did the choreography (and in retrospect, its rather insulting to Jackie Chan).
#10re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 1:37amI love Wicked, it has a powerful score, a very entertaining book, and I'd say 90% of the time great acting...now the choreography, Mr.Cilento should have stayed in the chorus line he came out of, I mean I respect him because he has gotten far indeed but even though Wicked is not a dancing show, it could have a better choreography at those points in which the score suggests dancing. Cilento is definitely not the best choreographer, I think the most disappointing choreography was from "My Strongest Suit" in Aida, now what was that about?
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#11re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 1:41amagreed Fosse. I couldnt believe a show that features the song "Dancing through Life" would actually contain so little dancing. Even in that number there is barely any dancing. And I think its only on the PBS Broadway Docu DVD, but in the backstage docu. on the creation of Wicked in SF, that chroegraphy looked god-awful. I think the song they were working on was cut from the show, but everyone was just spastically jerking around like some epilleptic orgy.
#12re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 2:38am
well...the way he defends himself on this is-"It's musical staging, not meant to be choreography."
ok...
If you see the extra feature about Wicked's road to Broadway on the Broadway: The American Musical dvds they show a portion of the cut number, "Which Way is the Party" and there are some creative combinations, though they never made it into the production.
Updated On: 9/3/05 at 02:38 AM
#13re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 8:51amIf the adaptation was going to change Nessarose's disability, then why, oh, why? wasn't there a magical, moving dance number for her once she had the use of her legs? She'd been desiring that opportunity for her entire lifetime and chooses only to walk around a bit? If ever a modern musical comedy moment cried out for dance, this was it!
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#14re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 8:52am
I personally like a lot of it...I realize it is not the best choreographed..and there are better shows..but there are parts I really like..like Dancing through Life...it's just..fun!
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#15re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 8:59amCilento's choreography is a perfect fit for Wicked.
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#16re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 9:08amIsn't he credited for "musical staging" or something like that...not choreographer?
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#17re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 9:17amThat would make sense. It's similar to NINE. They're not typical song and dance numbers like they should be in Sweet Charity.
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#18re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 10:51amCilento is credited for "Musical staging" not choreography. He himself said its not dancing, just intense movement
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#19re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 10:53amI don't really know if it was bad, but when I saw WICKED which was right after it opened...the choreography was so sloppy...I was kinda shocked by this.
#20re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:26pmAs for the Nessa comment, it probably would have been kinda silly. I mean she just starts walking after sitting her entire life in a wheelchair. That she could start dancing (and dancing well) right away would be stretching too much. But then again...its OZ.
#21re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:28pm
Well Cilento actually choreographed dancing in CHARITY. But a lot of the numbers fail in comparison to Fosse's original choreo.
Anyway. If people are looking for a dance show on Broadway, it would be silly to go see WICKED.. People should go to CHICAGO for that.
#22re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:30pm
Cilento sucks.
Wicked's "choreography" looks like a community college modern dance recital.
Updated On: 9/3/05 at 12:30 PM
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#23re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:35pm
"Cilento is credited for "Musical staging" not choreography. He himself said its not dancing, just intense movement"
What's his excuse for Sweet Charity, then?
#24re: Wicked's choreography
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:37pm
It's the Weissler's fault for hiring his ass for choreography.
What a huge mistake.
There is someone callled ANN REINKING who amazingly recreates Fosse's choreography... and would've done great for Charity.
But oh well, it's still an enjoyable revival. And some of the choreo isn't THAT bad.
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