any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated and to win the Tony for Best Musical? — Page 2

#26

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:22pm

"Mmmmm, no. But, I can see her for a later version of the show, but definitely not to define the role! Ugh."

You can talk about my Grandma, my brother, anyone you want. But messin' with Jan? Like Miss Sophia says, "HELL, NO"

#27

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:22pm

Yes, that took my breath away too! I hope he's okay in any case.

#28

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:25pm

I wasn't messin' with her, I just said that Bebe is the perfect person to originate the role of Morticia, for many reasons. I can explain, but none of the explanations would defile the brilliant Jan. They are mutually exclusive issues.

#29

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:27pm

Would any of those reasons involve Bebe Neuwirth's annoying vibrato?

#30

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:30pm

Yes! Morticia would have an annoying vibrato!-- she has a "dead" voice. And her songs are whiny, sweet, and lovely and "flat" so it all fits together. It's charming.

#31

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:30pm

I thought they took away all her songs.

#32

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:32pm

Also, what other role would fit Bebe perfectly! Bebe is Bebe, and she deserves her fame and honor for exactly what she is (and nothing more), but still is part of Theatre. I'm glad she came back, and with this role is perfect.

#33

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:34pm

she has about three (not all solos of course, and that's good), but they are all just charming (which, again, should be what a musical about The Addams Family should be)

#34

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:37pm

I didn't realize that Morticia was supposed to make ears bleed. I think if her voice sounded more pleasant, then "Death is Just Around the Corner" would have more irony, possibly making it actually funny.

To answer your question, I thought that Bebe Neuwirth was a near perfect fit for Velma in Chicago. In that, she was able to show off her amazing dancing, which I have heard she doesn't get to do as much in The Addams Family.

#35

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:40pm

Actually, I will disagree with you that Bebe was not a near perfect fit for Velma-- exactly because Velma needs a strong, vibrant, and nasty vibrato, and Bebe's vibrato did flatten it. (please don't threaten to bash me against some palace steps like Jordan did). And, the moment when Bebe does "dance" in the show, the way it is done is pure irony.

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#36

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:40pm

AwesomeDanny, have you actually seen the show? Because in the first paragraph you state your opinion like you have seen the show, and in the second you say you "heard" she doesn't get to dance much.

#37

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:43pm

Yes, good point, chellie, because Bebe's exact voice fits with the song, the scene, and stands out as perfectly different from the other cast voices' characters. Anything else would have been wrong.

#38

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:44pm

Uh, no. I hated the show. I was just wondering because they seem to be conflicting statements.

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#39

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:46pm

To be fair, no, I have not actually been able to see the show live, so I'm basing my opinion off the cast recording. Maybe she sounds different live, but I just can not stand that vibrato on the cast recording. I'm sure that her acting is great, but that's not what I'm complaining about because I can't really judge that yet. Morethan Just Malice, I think we'll have to agree to disagree about Bebe Neuwith's casting.

#40

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 10:53pm

well, I'm off to drink something to quell the pain, but "thanks for playing" all

#41

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 11:27pm

Okay, I came back, after a drink, and rethought my statement about Bebe not being great for Velma. I think she was perfect (even the voice) for the first Velma of the great revival of Chicago. Yes, that is definite. But, overall, Chita was the perfect Velma, and she has the whole package for Velma.
anyway, now I'm off again. I can't stop grieving for the whole cast, crew, and such of The Addams Family...

#42

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 11:37pm

WAIT! Did I miss something? There's a musical based on the Addams Family??

#43

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 11:38pm

Yeah and it SUCKS!

#44

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 11:39pm

The CD plays much better than the show.

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#45

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 11:41pm

Mildred, they should put that on a sticker on the front of the cd.

#46

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 11:44pm

HA! That'd be great Jordan. I'd buy a 2nd copy and not open it just to have that!

Actually, sans Finian's (which played great on stage and on disc) I think most of this season's offerings were better on disc. I've listened to Memphis and Night Music often and didn't love either live.

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#47

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/11/10 at 11:57pm

To answer your question: no. I see no problem with the show NOT being nominated.

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#48

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/12/10 at 1:03am

I miss the consolation of TheatreFan4! Anyway, just for s**ts and giggles, does anyone get my "egregious" ironic remark?

#49

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/12/10 at 1:06am

Ugh.

#50

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/12/10 at 9:11am

When I saw the nominations I thought "You could nominate 'Cry Baby, with a straight face, but you didn't nominate 'Addams Family'?"

But I always remember that award shows are not only about celebrating what you like, but also about snubbing what you don't like.

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Updated On: 6/12/10 at 09:11 AM