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#51

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/12/10 at 9:57am

actually i see where you're coming from.
Bebe was perfect for the role to originate it.
if i had my say it'd be nominated for Best musical, Best score (Andrew Lippa), Best leading actor (Nathan Lane), Best leading actress (Bebe Neuwirth), Best featured Actor (Kevin Chamberland), Best featured actress (Jackie Hoffman), Best Scenic Design and Best costumes.
in my dream world that'd be what their up for haha obviously people are going to reply with "well thank god we dont live in ur dream world"....and i'd reply "you wouldnt be in my dream world anyway! *gives evil eyes* lol :P

but i do agree with you that Morticia had to have a voice that stood out completely, and Bebe's very distinctive vibrato does that very well....and Death is jus around the corner is what im listening to constantly =D

#52

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/12/10 at 11:46am

oh, thank you, Sondheimboy2 and TheKandyLife, for letting me know I'm not alone in the world. I was just so surprised when these other shows were nominated and The Addams Family had been completely snubbed. Despite what another poster said, I am definitely not insecure about my taste and I tend to have too high of standards of what constitutes alive/enlightening and dead/dishonest theatre, but the production of The Addams Family just seems so "perfect" and silly in how it represents itself--and then to have the added zen messages of "accept death" and "face your fears" and the importance of love and laughter all just make the show a bit more special. I regret I did not see the other shows when I was in NYC, so they must be just incredible or something directly or indirectly happened to snub this show.

#53

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/12/10 at 10:49pm

While I did enjoy The Addams Family more than others on this board, after listening to the OBC cd this week, I recognize that the music is weak and certainly nothing to get excited about. However, I do believe that there is something wrong when Sean Hayes is nominated and hosting the Tonys and Nathan Lane is not. Not the greatest Lane performance by any means, but certainly as worthy as Hayes. I don't know if it was Lane's idea or the original director but I think his Spanish accent was unnecessary and took some of the polish off the character. One of my favorite numbers in the show, "Happy/Sad" sounded kind of silly on the CD although I thought it was very moving during the show.

#54

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/12/10 at 11:21pm

The unpolished Spanish accent is actually what is required: the original TV Addams character had this sort of silliness. Anything polished or otherwise would have taken away from honoring the original sources. And, yes, shayup, you raise an incredibly important point: Why Hayes and not Lane???? Something is up with all this. I know I'm sounding paranoid.

#55

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/13/10 at 1:00pm

no i compeltely agree! why hayes and not lane? Lane is broadways biggest male right now. garunteed if he's in a show it'll sell out (the addams family is a sell regardless of of the pointless critics views, whom i think are just wanting a show about them and not any other show...EVER *angry face*) but lane wasn't nominated for anything, so i think they should have had him hosting the show, it would be a lot funnier, Hayes i a very funny man, but i've yet to meet male funnier than Lane, i can only think of Megan Mullally to compare with comedic timing with him. but anyway, that's my views lol

#56

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/13/10 at 1:05pm

Nobody is arguing Lane's ability as a comic actor. It just so happens the show e is in now is not good. He does his best to carry it and deserves kudos for that but the fact remains the show he's carrying is a turkey.

#57

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/13/10 at 6:27pm

Sorry, when did Promises, Promises become a good show??? It's pretty mediocre, imo. There should never be a Tony award show that Nathan Lane isn't a part of, either as a nominee or a presenter of some kind. He is that identified with Broadway.

#58

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:51pm

I don't think the show was very good, but Nathan SHOULD have been nominated. That definitely puzzled me.

#59

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/13/10 at 9:01pm

Totally agree. I'm glad to see Nathan in the audience tonight and hopefully he will be presenting an award so he can get the respect from the audience that he didn't get from the nominating committee.

#60

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 1:30am

I at least expect The Addams Family to get nominated for...

Set design
Leading actor (Nathan Lane)
Sound design

Getting nominated for score was the last thing I predicted.

#61

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:21am

Anyway, just for s**ts and giggles, does anyone get my "egregious" ironic remark?

I assume you are referring to Julie Andrews a decade ago, but there's nothing ironic about you using the word.

#62

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 1:20pm

The Addams Family is a great musical! So much talent, entertaining show, and the score is actually outstanding. So no, you're not alone!

#63

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 4:51pm

I would have like to have seen it nominated so that I would have
a Tony Award Performance preserved on video.

It was not a great musical by any means but either was Fela, American Idiot, Memphis or Million Dollar Quartet or any other nominated musical.

It should have been nominated for Set, kevin Chamberlin and
best musical (just to have a performance to keep)--- although it would have lost for Best Musical.

Kevin chamberlin was the best thing in Adams Family.
Sean Hayes, Chad Kimball all gave better performances than Nathan this time around.

But the award went to the misguided and annoying Douglas Hodge.
Any of the choices including Nathan Lane were better than him
There is no Tony God!

#64

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 5:03pm

The unpolished Spanish accent is actually what is required: the original TV Addams character had this sort of silliness.

But John Astin didn't use an accent. Raul Julia did, but it was natural. There was no reason for Lane to have an accent at all. It reminded me of Crawford in Dance of the Vampires. To me, it was distracting and out of place.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

#65

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:09pm

actually, no, the accent is needed. For comedic purposes and another layer of character development.

an example of comedic purposes: "my fabulous lady wife" who referes to their wife as that, apart from an out of place foreign person? (NO RACISM INTENDED IF IT DOES OFFEND!) also "you are too late, senior poop-head"....would be out of place for him to say that with his normal accent.

#66

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:12pm

^ Idiotic.

#67

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:23pm

This was absolutely the year of "How could this fail? Oh crap it did." Addams Family and Promises could/shoulda/woulda been so much better and yet, they are a mess.

There should be a Tony for Best Screwup.

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#68

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:55pm

I think what I like most about the show is Nathan, but other than that I have fallen for the score, Andrew Lippa is a wonderful composer!

I thought it was all a flash in the pan. It wasn't until Broadway came along that I felt I had really made it. -Julie Andrews

#69

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/15/10 at 1:19am

I had a very good time at The Addams Family. Well, after I changed my seat. Under no conditions sit in the last seat in the front row of the mezzanine. I was on the audience right, but it's likely the same for the audience left. I could see neither around nor over nor through the two people closest to me in the side box. If I leaned to the left, then my head was in front of the person sitting in that seat. Honestly, if they are going to sell that seat it should be called "obstructed view". In any event go see the show and have fun. Nathan, Bebe and company are worth it. And there is no doubt in my mind that Jackie Hoffman should have had a Featured Actress nomination.

#70

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/15/10 at 1:26pm

an example of comedic purposes: "my fabulous lady wife" who referes to their wife as that, apart from an out of place foreign person? (NO RACISM INTENDED IF IT DOES OFFEND!) also "you are too late, senior poop-head"....would be out of place for him to say that with his normal accent.

Those examples make a good case to drop the accent. But seriously, it is really more likely the accent-related jokes were ad-libs dropped in by Lane when adopting the accent. An acent was not required to write jokes for the character just as accents were not required for all the other characters in the show. It was never a requirement before and it isn't now. It was a conscious choice to do it this way, but not "required".

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

#71

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/15/10 at 7:26pm

i know it isnt "required" but...i love it :) and glad he/they kept it in...also with a name like Gomez....isnt it spanish-esque? lol i'm not one for research on names...and google is nnot my friend haha but i think we can gather that, like every other show in the world...eachh to their own preference.

we all go in with hopes of what it will be, and are either left satisfied, blown away or dissappointed...like the critics, they look for flaws (imo, lol) for me i was blown away, i expected it to be an adaption of the orignal comic strips, and was so glad it wasnt! lol

#72

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/15/10 at 7:32pm

"Gomez" is, but "Addams" isn't. I'm a white Jewish girl from Massachusetts, and nobody's stopping me from naming my baby Shameequa, but that doesn't make the kid black.

Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters. ~ Wicked
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent

"He's a tramp, but I love him."

#73

any else think it was egregious for The Addams Family not to be nominated a

Posted: 6/15/10 at 7:35pm

I want to clarify that, while the Spanish accent may be expected by some of the audience, the character itself does not "require" it.

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