Understudy Joined: 9/3/05
I will take your advice and give it another listen. Perhaps there is something I missed. I'll let you know what I think.
Kiddo, follow the advice to look for the DVD too.
Stand-by Joined: 12/29/04
"But if life were only moments/Even now and then a bad one/But if life were only moments/Than you wouldnt know you had them"
"It takes trust/It takes just/A bit more/And we're done/We want four,/We had none./We've got three./We need one./It takes two."
"If the end is right,/It justifies/The beans!"
"There's no possible way/To describe what you feel/When you're talking to your meal."
Watch the DVD!?!?!?!!?!?! I kno ur ears must be soar from listening to Idinas screech so much but open up your EARS and listen to the WORDS.
"The special beans.
I let him go,
I didn't know
He'd stolen my beans!
I was watching him crawl,
Back over the wall-!
Then bang! Crash!
And the lightning flash!
And- well, that's another story,
Never mind-
Anyway, at last
The big day came,
And I made my claim.
"Oh, don't take away the baby,"
They shrieked and screeched,
But I did,
And I hid her
Where she'll never be reached.
And your father cried,
And your mother died
When for extra measure-
I admit it was a pleasure-
I said, "Sorry,
I'm still not mollified."
And I laid little spell on them-
You, too, son-
That your family tree
Would always be a barren one...
So there's no more fuss
And there's no more scenes
And my garden thrives-
You should see my nectarines!
But I'm tellling you the same
I tell kings and queens:
Don't ever never ever
Mess around with my greens!
Especially the beans."
Childish? Name the last kid that said 'mollified'to you. No better yet you tell me what it mmeans 610.
Understudy Joined: 9/3/05
mollified means that Toodramatic needs to...GET A LIFE!
First, congrats for starting a thread about something OTHER than WICKED!
Second, for many people Sondheim is an aquired taste. My favorite Sondheim musical is A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC...and I absolutely HATED it the first time I heard it! I wanted to break the CD into two! After a couple more playings I found more and more i liked about the show until I got to the point that I ADORED it!
My advice, kid: Be patient. Put down the WICKED CD for about a week and try OTHER musicals! HAIRSPRAY! MAMMA MIA! ANYTHING so long as it isn't WICKED!!!
Stand-by Joined: 12/29/04
harsh words from someone posting on a broadway message board! (realizes he is also posting on a broadway message board, wipes grin off face)
Please 610 I was being very nice to you up until I got to this thread which made me die. I honestly died. No joke you have killed me. I am dead. Dead. I hope your happy cause I'm dead.
Updated On: 9/7/05 at 11:39 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/10/05
douche bag comes to mind (along with a few other, more vulgar terms). Not about disliking ITW cause personally i don't like ITW either, of Sondheims broadway shows, it is my least favorite.
however, to call anything Sondheim has done Immature, especially compared to WIcked (which i love) is just pure chicanary. It makes you look like an asshat. and i use the term asshat in the nicest way possible. try listening to something that didn't make it's broadway debut in the last 10 years. start small, 10 years back, then, after a few months, move back another 10 years, and so on.
but seriously, GET A F*CKING CLUE YOU IGNORANT CHILD.
Understudy Joined: 9/3/05
well, atleast one good thing has come out of me posting on this board.
ok, gald you are going to listen to it again, cause it really is a good musical. And, like a lot of people said, Wicked can not at all be compared to Into the woods. I love both musicals, and even though Wicked is higher on my list that Into the Woods (for reasons that are hard to explain), I still love Into the woods. The cleverness of the songs, the incredible weaving of many fariy tales. And while the first act seems like fun and games and everything, the main, serious stuff is in the 2nd Act. And it goes deeper than Wicked will ever go.
So, please, listen to it a few more times and see the DVD with Joanna Gleason who is very good. (don't like Bernadette Peters, so can't comment on her).
Quick someone perform CPR on toodramatic! Call an ambulace! Is it too late to save him?
elphaba610: Like others have said, I think you should just ease into other shows. Start with Rent (the original Elphaba was in it, if you care), and then maybe Aida or Hairspray or other shows of the sort. We'll get to Sondheim soon enough, don't worry.
Understudy Joined: 9/3/05
The only reason I listened to Into the woods cause I thought the same guy wrote wicked too. But I'll give it another go anyway.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/8/04
Stephen Sondheim
Stephen Schwartz
*Sigh* Stephen Schwartz composed:
PIPPIN
GODSPELL
CHILDREN OF EDEN
WORKING
THE MAGIC SHOW
THE BAKER'S WIFE
If you want to hear more Schwartz musicals, try GODSPELL or PIPPIN. Many Schwartz fans adore CHILDREN OF EDEN. For a good, cheap CD http://www.drgrecords.com is selling THE MAGIC SHOW for only $7.99!
You can go to http://www.fynsworthalley.com and order WORKING. If you do, skip of the "Neat to Be a Newsboy" song. One of the WORST songs written in musical theatre history, IMHO.
Stand-by Joined: 12/29/04
Oh poor thing I know identifying different last names can be tricky! Wicked is probably Schwartz's weakest score (in my opinion)... Some of his better shows can get pretty tough too, be warned.
Toodramatic you're alive! My efforts to save you worked!
You know having two people with the same intials can be very confusing. People mix me up with Erin Dilly all of the time because of the whole initial thing (and we can both sing... I mean, God, she's like my twin).
I'm not being mean to you though elphaba610, I'm really glad you're going to give it another shot.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/10/05
Ok, so elphaba has no taste in music and is illiterate, good to know.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/05
I am still confused at one point. Where the hell does the witch rap? I just listened to all three offical recordings (as well as on not-so-offical live recording from Sydney) again and there is no rapping that I can see.
Stand-by Joined: 12/29/04
It was a close one LaVie but if I can survive "The Blonde in the Thunderbird" I can survive anything....
it's in the first song. the song called Greens. The way she does sounds a little like rap. And there are weird sounds in the background.
Understudy Joined: 9/3/05
When that witch is singing about her vegitable garden. Sounds like rap to me. Maybe you need to clean our your ears!
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/10/05
OMG, you really are 12 aren't you?
Stand-by Joined: 12/29/04
Theres a beatbox at the very start of it in the OBC. 1st track. Witch singing about garden.
Its really not 'rapping' just a really long rhyme scheme.
Sondheim pokes fun at it by adding a little hip hop feel at the start but um yeah by no means is it 'rap.'
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/05
I do not need to clean out my ears you little twat. I don't take judgement from sombody that cannot even tell the difference between Schwartz and Sondheim (I would've thought the names on the CD cover alone would've given you a clue). Come back when you have some actual taste with real musicals then you have a right to insult me.
In heinsight I can see why some people think of the Greens segment as a rap, but I just think it is very typical Bernie. I see it as just her rapid-fire comedy she is famous for. Bernie's Gold.
Stand-by Joined: 12/29/04
Well said Urban, Bernie is gold.
610 be more like Bernie.
Vanessa does the same thing. sort of like rap. Her voice is so much better than Peters. But I must say that Peters' acting is so much better than Williams.
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