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#76

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ESM - With the Idina thing, I definitely didn't take it as her being bitchy or anything, but I'm sure the girl did, which is why I posted it. If it were me, I probably would do the same thing too.
"The tick BOOM tick BOOM is so loud I can't hear the rain on the grass. I can't hear the wind. I'm about to scream. But I realize I'm not alone."
#77

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Heather Headley after a performance of Aida. Although not "mean" at the stage door she was rather cold and ignored the fans at the door--all 7 of us. The weird thing was the way she just sauntered down the street, not in an obvious hurry at all. When one young man asked if he could get her to sign his playbill she simply said "No", but it wasn't an evil no. Now I don't believe she was required to do anything for the fans, but I fail to understand how she could be so aloof and arrogant to act as if her fans didn't matter. It would have taken two seconds to say "Thank you for coming" or to scribble something on our playbills as there simply was not a huge crowd mobbing her and she clearly wasn't in a hurry to get somewhere. Maybe it's just me but were I in her shoes as a Tony winner I like to think I would remember the audience of ticket buyers out there. After all, if it wasn't for all us ticket buying schmucks Ms. Headley wouldn't have had a stage to sing on or a Tony to shine every night (and yes, her talent is her own, not "ours"). I guess one can become jaded and arrogant as a successful performer it's just that I have a hard time understanding how anyone can forget the importance of their audience. It's in the little things, perceptions, etc.

And true, Ms. Headley owes us nothing other than the performance we paid to see that night, but that door swings both ways. She lost a fan in me that night and I haven't spent a dime on her since then whereas had she at least acknowledged us fans that time I'd probably have bought her CD(s) and kept paying to see her. So pooh on her!

Adam Pascal was very nice and spent tons of time signing autographs and doing the pic thing and just hanging out with the few of us there. Since I didn't even know who he was at the time (don't freak on me) I didn't realize until later that he was a big star. Since he treated us fans so well I have followed him since then and supported him too. In retrospect I was really impressed with his genuine politeness. He's a class act.

I also was impressed with (and don't even think of bashing here) Taylor Dayne. Not only does she have "pipes" but she was very nice at the stagedoor. She took the time to greet and sign autographs (as Adam did too) with the two wheelchair bound fans that were about 20 feet away just past some construction barricades. Heather on the other hand managed to walk right by these fans with nary a glance in their direction.

Via con Diablo Heather
("baby, it's cold outside")
#79

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Wow, Lea Salonga?

Bebe Neuwirth back when Chicago FIRST opened (meaning eons ago), was VERY VERY nice to me. She even complimented my mom on a ring that she was wearing when my mom snapped a picture for us.

I have to say that while not necessarily mean, Julie Andrews let down tons of fans consistently during her Victor Victoria run. I know of only a few who actually really got to meet her and get her signature after a show.

But then again, she's Julie Andrews, so I still love her!
#80

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I had a completely opposite experience with Taylor Dayne. She was clearly having a bad day. There was a small group of people waiting for autographs and photos, and she came out and said, "OK, let's make this quick," and when I (very politely)asked to pose for a photo, I could sense her impatience. She is a very petite woman, and when I sidled up next to her for the photo and I said, "My gosh, I feel so tall," and she snapped, "Well, that's because you ARE tall." I was mortified---I wasn't trying to insult her in any way, and yet apparently that's how she took it. I am about the most benign, polite "fan" you could ever hope to meet, and as someone who had admired her singing for years, I was a bit bruised by that experience.

On the flip side, I met Bebe Neuwirth and Jarrod Emick after a performance of DAMN YANKEES (can it really be 10 years ago???). Bebe was very quiet and gracious (another TINY woman) and Jarrod was a total sweetheart (still probably flying high from his Tony win the week before).


"Word of advice: Be who you are, wear what you want---just learn how to run real fast." Marc, UGLY BETTY
#81

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Wow, Damn Yankees was 10 years ago? Makes me feel old!
#82

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see i think that the performer isnt obligated to sign or anything but it is in his or her best interest to seem nice, unless they are uber talented, but there are some cases where it is inexcusable, for example I am OBSESSED with Fame on 42nd street, or was, and I saw it 17 times I was REALLY obsessed, and I would go every 2 weeks when i;d saved up enough babysitting money, and i LOVED sara schmidt, who was serena, and every time i went i would hang and talk to the cast after each performance, except there was one cast member who was routinely rude, and i would try to compliment her and she would just walk away and she was by no means in a rush and it wasnt like there were a bunch of fans, it was usually just me, and the last 2 times i saw it, the 2 days before i left for my summer camp, 4 days before it closed, and both times i was crying and all the cast was comforting me and we were talking and stuff and she just walked on, but the 2nd to last time i saw it it was sara schmidt's bday so i brought her this really nice expensive cake, and i brought another cake for someone whose bday it was on closing night which was 3 days away and everyone was thanking me, but she and the person whose cake it was just left without thanking me, and the last time i ever saw it i asked them to sign a poster and he did and was like oh thanx for the cake and all the cast was thanking me for how nice i'd been for the run and she didnt say anything just like scrtibbled something and walked on and dragged the guy who was talking to me, um, RUDE
"Don't thank your parents, if you were raised in a nurturing environment you wouldnt be in show business"--Conan O'Brien at the 2006 Emmy Awards
#83

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Hey, rude is rude, and I don't condone that, but I think starting a deliberately spiteful thread like this one is just as bad.
#84

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Re: Andrews

Remember that she was going through the biggest vocal crisis of her life during the run of Victor/Victoria (that lead to the nodes and later the surgery that destroyed her voice). Her doctors wanted her to quit the show altogether halfway through the run, but being the pro that she was, she soldiered on. However, part of the compromise with her doctors for continuing in the show was that she was to be on complete vocal rest at all times when she wasn't on the stage -- no talking under any circumstances and that meant no stage doors. That's why no one got her autograph -- it was all she could do (and more so) to just make it through eight shows every week, let alone spending time out in the street with her fans.
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#85

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Gotta agree with Plum. That's why I think rather than name names of those who showed rude behavior, I like just naming people who went above and beyond just the simple pleasantries of signing playbills. Most actors are very nice in signing and talking to those fans who wait at the stage door and then there are a few who are incredibly sweet when they obviously do not have to be.
#86

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I agree with most of you that the people that are in the shows should have no obligation to sign playbills or take pictures with anyone. I don't think I would be that nice to fans if I had to deal with them night after night.
I have never had anyone be mean after a show but when I saw The Producers, I waited for 1 hour and a half after the show so that I could see Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick. I'm not obsessed with either of them, so I don't know why I waited. It was about 40 degrees, and very late. I got to meet Matthew Broderick who was very nice, but when Nathan Lane came out he came out in sunglasses and just looked at the floor and walked to his car. I didn't care that he didn't sign anything, but the fact that he didn't even acknowledge that there were people there, and it was around 11 o clock. I know that Times Square is bright, but what a way to ignore people.
But I know that he's not a mean person because one of my best friends dad's was the lighting designer for A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum, and because of that they are family friends, and my friend says that he's really nice. I'm trusting her on this.

Updated On: 11/8/04 at 04:27 PM

#87

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I try not to speak ill of people anymore and haven't really had many "mean" experiences...but I'll just say that Gina Gershon, Tom Bosley, and Rhea Pearlman aren't exactly cuddly. I couldn't care less about the last two, but the first one really hurt years ago.

And frankly, I didn't think the Peter Krause thing was that bad. At least they announced it ahead of time so no one would be made to feel uncomfortable or snubbed to their faces. And I still snuck a candid of him from the curb. He knew I was doing it and wasn't upset.
#88

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I've basically forgotten what this thread is about. I'm still trying to comprehend the fact that someone can actually enjoy FAME on 42nd St. and see it more than once...It might take a while, that is the absolute WORST thing I've ever seen in my entire life. It resembled a high school production I had the misfortune of seeing...

And I guess I was one of the lucky ones, I did get to meet Julie Andrews.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#89

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ESM,
I SO love you now. LOL.
The sense of entitlement that people feel sometimes is RIDICUKOUS.
#90

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I'm gonna make a point of avoiding all stage doors. I just feel bad for the perfomers who are "attacked" by crazy fans and whatnot after the shows. Yes it's nice as a performer to get recognision but at the level it gets to be at stage doors...eep!

I might *might* go after Little Women to meet Sutton because she is my all time favorite and such a doll (I'm told). And also the Q cast seem to be absolutely nothing less than charming. And I adore J-Tart AND the door at Q isn't very full I'm told.

But I give you all permission to shoot me if I go anywhere near the Wicked stage door!
#91

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frankly, I think the stars should be grateful they have fans, and signing playbills and chatting with people is a great way to show some appreciation.

Of course, this is assuming that the fans are sane and somewhat calm.
#92

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There were some mad crazy fans for Drew Lachey at Rent. Im sure he wanted to run away lol but he was really patient.

*I* had to walk away...It got really irratating.
*Krissy* **Support the use of illegal wood burning stoves. Get your own metal trash can today!**
#93

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Drew and Jai win at life.

Mel B and Frenchie suck at life.

That's that.
"The tick BOOM tick BOOM is so loud I can't hear the rain on the grass. I can't hear the wind. I'm about to scream. But I realize I'm not alone."
#94

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Any actor should realize they are no where without there fans and of course crazy people aren't cool but many actors havent been either.
#95

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On the whole, I have witnessed many more rude people than rude actors outside stage doors. Plus I think most of the collectors are a frightening lot.
#96

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Does anyone see this woman at every stage door:

She's an old, old, homeless looking short woman that always carries around a giant plastic bag full of all playbills and stuff, or a giant folder with different playbills and things in them. She's absolutely crazy, and I run into he EVERYWHERE. She also has a husband that is just as nuts. Last year at the Little Shop party I was waiting on the street for Doug to go to the party with friends and she was going nuts because she was convinced SAndy Duncan was there and she kept screaming ARE YOU SANDY DUNCAN, WHERES SANDY DUNCAN. And finally she just gave up. I hadn't seen her for a while, then I bumped into her at the flea market. I work at BOMBAY DREAMS, and just last week I was walking into the theatre and she was standing outside the stage door. I can't imagine what shedoes with all this stuff - PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE ON HERE KNOWS WHO IM TALKING ABOUT!!!!
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#97

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Im just suprised noone mentioned Harvey Fierstein. Seriously. I remember seeing Hairspray, and Mary Bond Davis (sweetest woman i know) even warned everyone of his attitude before he came out.

and since everyone keeps bringing this up... as a matter of fact, many contracts state that you DO represent a large part of your show and and expected to act as such. Many shows even, if you havent noticed (more so with openings and special guest artists) delay performers exits so they all hit at different times.

la lala
#98

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I wouldn't call Harvey *mean*, per say. He's gruff and he tries to be intimidating (even to the people he works with, because if he doesn't like you, he'll let you know it), but he's kind of sweet. He signed the DVD of a movie he was in for my boyfriend, even though I'd warned my bf that I didn't think he would. Mary Bond Davis warned people when I was at the stage door as well, not to have him sign mulitple playbills or take pictures. There were a lot of people who didn't respect his wishes and that was when he pulled an attitude.
#99

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bdwybelle: You may not agree with this, but I'll say it anyway. I know you may have been disappointed by the fact that Lane did not acknowledge people but I've seen him and other actors just give a wave and once they acknowledge the crowd, they are finished...they will NOT get out of there because people take that acknowledgement as permission to approach. If you DON'T want to engage with someone because you are late, sick, tired, hungry etc. then this is usually the best way to get out quickly...or leave by another door. Wearing a hat and sunglasses may seem silly but it is further proof that he did want to be disturbed. I don't know when you saw the Producers but you should also consider that Lane had many physical and vocal problems and was really fighting to remain healthy during this show. Standing in a crowd of people who may have something contagious does not exactly help that process...and when you are doing a role as demanding as Max B, you tend to work, eat and sleep and that's about it. If you need further evidence of how demanding and tiring this role is, look at the debacle that is going on over in London because of Dreyfuss leaving the show and Lane having to step in. This is NOT an easy role to do. And though every audience feels like they are the ONLY ones...the stage door thing night after night is just one more in a long list of challenges an actor faces in getting through this show.

The bottom line is...like it or not...you pay your money and you are entitled to a good performance (just as in a movie theater). That's IT...there is no contract that says a performer has to talk to, LIKE or look at his/her fans though we'd all like a shot at telling them how wonderful we think they are.
"Life is a lesson in humility"
#100

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munkustrap- i love your icon and quote. I was living when Edina daydreamed about having a mixed race baby (It's the Chanel of babies!) and she was wearing a red tracksuit and hanging with the rastas. Saunders is crazy brilliant.
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