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#51

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She must like you, Matt. You got off easy.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#52

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I know! When I told her how much I loved her performance, she disemboweled my pet dog and used it in a voodoo sacrifice.
#53

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Now that's the Betty we know and love. Matt's post caused me to worry a bit that perhaps her spirit had been broken. Good to know she's back in form!
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#54

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I dont think Ive ever had a bad expierience. Ive seen other people who seemed to have. One girl, looked to be about 9 or 10, walked up to Frenchie Davis from American Idol, currently in RENT, and asked for her autograph. Frenchie said no *fakie cough* I have a cold, and walked away.

She choked up a bit, and looked like she was about to cry. Then she went over to Drew Lachey who was outside signing things, and he was nice enough to take a picture with her, sign a playbill and give her a hug. I thought it was very sweet of him.
*Krissy* **Support the use of illegal wood burning stoves. Get your own metal trash can today!**
#55

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Oh DEFINITELY Cheyenne.
Just look at that face...he's vicious.
He maced me one time at AIDA.

Yeah, him and the cast of Avenue Q...
John Tartaglia stun gunned me one time...just out of nowhere.
I asked him for a picture and then ZAP!! I wake up three days later in bathtub in some motel in South Jersey, missing a kidney.



Definitely watch out for C and that whole Q group...



Andrew, tonight isn't about you! It isn't even about me!!! - [FD]
#56

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wow, I feel kinda bad now for taking it as an insult. If you're reading this, Betty Buckley, Ike Turner is very sorry, baby!

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#57

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Michelle Federer was most definitely NOT the nicest person I've ever met in my life. Between blatantly ignoring my friend and stealing my pen, I don't know what was worse.

And since a bad stage door thread is never complete without a mention of Idina Menzel, here's one for you. Idina was completely nice to me, nothing but good things to say from my own experience. However, a girl my friend and I met before Idina came outside had made this [badly done] collage of pictures of her and Taye. It was like she printed it and was running out of colored ink because the pictures were tinted and stuff. But it was cute as hell. And all the girl wanted was to give it to Idina. So Idina makes her way down the line, and was so amazingly nice to me, and then she gets to this girl, and the girl goes to speak -- and Idina just signs the thing and moves on. Didn't even look at it. I felt bad, but I did laugh a little.

Melanie Brown shoved me out of the way on her way into the Nederlander one day. Like, walked into me and was screaming into her cell phone about her mum. And then later that evening after she was done signing things she bolts to get into Bar 41 and pushes me over again. Needless to say, she's not my favorite spice girl.


"The tick BOOM tick BOOM is so loud I can't hear the rain on the grass. I can't hear the wind. I'm about to scream. But I realize I'm not alone."
#58

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I'm going to be very positive and say that every actor I have spoken to after a show has been friendly to me. I just spoke to Max Von Essen this evening after Dorian The Musical in L.A. and he was quite gracious as were three of his castmates whom I also spoke to. I make it a point to compliment them on their work, and if I've seen them in something else, I comment on that too. Actors like to hear that they are good at their craft (I'm an actor too) and not just fan talk. I don't ask for photos or autographs (two exceptions: Deborah Gibson signed her latest CD for me; I'd just shown her a photo of my collection of just about every CD she'd made; and Steve Sandvoss, star of the film Latter Days, was super sweet to me and the two friends who saw him on stage recently in L.A. and posed for pictures with everyone). Anyway, what does an autograph mean? And a star may not like to be photographed that particular day. I'd much rather have a short and friendly conversation. John Tartaglia was a doll. I'm hoping that Stephanie Block takes over Elphaba because I do want her to sign the program from Funny Girl (Downey Civic Light Opera 1993!) which I have saved. I knew then that a star was in the making. Long post. Sorry to ramble.
#59

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Oh, Max von Essen....such fond memories.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#60

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Yeah Mel B was never one I was terribly interested in. I enjoyed her performances both times I saw her (but my fodness of her deteriorated after watching abootleg she was HORRID in, and her personality away from the stage) but while I was waiting for a certain cast member, She came out and sat near bar 41 smoking a cigarette and mouthing off with her little group of people. She was maybe 6 feet away, but for some reason she intimidated me enough to not even try to say hi to her.

I guess when youre having vocal problems, the best thing for you to do is smoke a cigarette.
*Krissy* **Support the use of illegal wood burning stoves. Get your own metal trash can today!**
#61

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She's probably just so bitter because she knows how wretched she is.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#62

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These stage door threads are really a bore. I've come to the conclusion that we drag these out every few months to kick around and make ourselves feel better b**ching about those awful stars. I guess it's like a release of anger or something to make us feel superior in some way

We say this EVERY time this thread comes up...and there are those who disagree who feel that a star should sign autographs, do windows and perhaps even come home and cook our dinner and have a romp between the sheets with us before tucking us into bed and tip toeing out the door. Let's all say it together now: 'It is an actor's CHOICE to sign or not sign...there is NO obligation and they are not BAD people if they choose not to sign or if they choose to talk back to a nasty fan'
"Life is a lesson in humility"
#63

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Nice try, Sam, but me thinks that was a waste of your typing time.
Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.
#64

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The only stage door I waited outside of many times was at the Imperial when "The Boy From Oz" was still there. The entire cast from that show was unbelieveably friendly and willing to sign things and take pictures (except for Hugh, who would sign things and kiss random people, but wasn't allowed to do individual pictures). It was also great because after Hugh would leave, most of the crowd would leave as well, so for those of us who really respected the talent of the rest of the cast as well, we could wait and see Stephanie Block (my absolute IDOL!)and the others without the crowd.
#65

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"they aren't mean because they just walk away. They are in no way obligated to stand there, sign things, and speak to you."

I disagree.
#66

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I think it is part of an actor's job-no matter how famous- to at least be gracious at stage doors. Without the fans, they wouldn't have a job.
"Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one." -Stella Adler
#67

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That doesn't mean you own even a little piece of them. You paid for your ticket, you got your performance, and that's all you got. As much as people here like to think otherwise- referring to actors by their first names as if they're personal friends- they are separate from their stage personas, and even their stage door personas. They aren't obligated to act for you even when they leave the theater. It makes them better-liked, sure, but in the end it's their choice.
#68

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But see, when an actor seems to ignore someone, or when Idina signed that collage mentioned above, you've got to put it in context.

Sometimes stage doors can be absolute chaos. You're trying to get dinner between shows, or you want to get to the gym before it closes, or whatever, so you are trying to expedite the signing process in the first place.

But you have to add into that how absolutely overwhelming it can be to have a bunch of people yelling to you all at the same time. Whether it's ten or fifty or whatever. You're signing an autograph for a little girl whose mom is telling you she wants to be an actress when she grows up, and with your left ear you're trying to listen to a school group who is whining that they need you to sign NOW because they have to get back on their bus, and couldn't you please please please do it, and someone has their arm around you because their friend is taking a picture, and in all the confusion you grab the collage that a girl is holding out to you and sign it. I mean, if it were me I would do exactly the same thing--rarely do people want to give you things, so I would just assume she wanted it signed.

It's not quite as easy as just writing your name a few times and smiling for pictures. It's hard to listen to ten people at once, and inevitably people go home and say "she ignored me". Not that simple.

And for those who asked, my screen name is such simply because I worry about the legions of 14-year-old girls who are going to blow out their voices trying to belt too high. And because the Wicked-worship on this board is out of control and it was funny.
#69

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It is funny. And it is ironic, as someone mentioned, that people are shortening your name to elphaba. re: meanest person @ stage door Perhaps we should call you ESM?
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#70

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I'm not saying you own a piece of them. I'm saying that there is no need for performers to be rude or nasty to their fans. I agree with ESM in that you need to put it in context. Sometimes it is just due to the chaos that a performer comes off cold. But when a performer is just mean to the fans by making a nasty comment etc., or by just ignoring them completely, that is another story. I'm not saying a performer needs to spend time with each fan, but they should at least be gracious to them.
"Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one." -Stella Adler

Updated On: 11/8/04 at 10:34 AM

#71

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Part of a performer's job is to know how to deal with the stage door.

I'm sure they know how. If they're rude bastards, they get the consequences- a reputation as a rude bastard. And in a profession like acting, reputation does count. But nowhere in their little contract do I see an obligation to be nice at the stage door. Nowhere. And as people have pointed out (again, and again, and again), most of the "rude" behavior people whine about can be characterized as either an actor in a hurry to leave or one who just has too many things to sign in too short a time. I remember someone once accusing an Avenue Q cast member of being rude- until (s)he learned that said cast member had a train to catch right after every show. These people have lives that don't include you. I know it's hard to comprehend, since they smile and act so nicely for you on stage, but they're actors. And I don't blame them if they're tired after being "on" for a few hours straight.

Updated On: 11/8/04 at 10:40 AM

#72

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I understand where you are coming from. And you're right that if an actor has a reputation that is not good, it will effect them. It is not in their contract to be nice at the stage door. By "nice" I mean that they keep any rude/nasty comments to themselves. It does not include signing things etc. Again, I think you need to put every situation in context, like when the performer was trying to catch a train, as you mentioned. Or in a situation with an overly obsessed fan where a performer may need to leave for their own safety. But any uncalled for nasty comment is unprofessional. It is not part of the contract, but any professional performer will keep any nasty comments to themselves.
"Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one." -Stella Adler
#73

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Oh, sure, rude comments are rude comments, and I think it's inappropriate. The line can be a little blurry between rudeness and offbeat humor and awkwardness at talking to people you don't know, but you're right about people who are just a**holes.

ESM is fine with me...apparently I've been sucked into posting CONSTANTLY now.
#74

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Well, ESM, I welcome you to the black hole that is the BWW message board. Kiss your life, family, friends, and any hobbies goodbye.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#75

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And she's not kidding, either!
"What a mystery this world. One day you love them and the next day you want to kill them a thousand times over." The Masked Bandit in THE FALL

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