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#25Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 9:16pmIt looks just like Alice in Wonderland to me. And while I love Franco and Kuniz it'll probably butcher the books in just the same fashion. While people might hate Return to Oz, I still think it captured the bizarre fantastical elements of the Oz books, albeit being very dark.
#26Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 9:20pmI like that they are creating a relationship with the Wizard and the WWW. I have a feeling that he breaks her heart and that how she becomes who she is.
#27Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 9:28pm
"While people might hate Return to Oz, I still think it captured the bizarre fantastical elements of the Oz books, albeit being very dark."
I love Return to Oz and it has a huge cult following, but all the people who say that it's faithful to the books IMHO haven't read the Baum books in a very long time, particularly the ones from Ozma on. Yes it uses elements, but Baum's books simply were never that dark or scary--the first one probably has the darkest elements.
If it focuses on backstory, etc, I'm ok with that--Alice in Wonderland was a mess to me because they turned it into some epic quest fantasy, which the books never were remotely.
#28Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 9:32pmand with this my fears are confirmed. This looks just like Tim Burton's 'Alice'.
#29Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 9:32pmFun fact about Alice in Wonderland (The Johnny Depp one), the entire movie is based off of 1 poem from the original book. The big beast is the Jabberwocky, and the entire movie is about finding that beast. The entire 10-or-so line poem is about hunting the Jabberwocky. In one part of the movie, Johnny Depp is actually reciting part of the poem. I know its irrelevant to this thread, but some people brought up Alice in Wonderland, so I thought I'd throw this in.
#30Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 10:02pm
That is a fun fact, and one I'm sure nobody had ever heard before! 
Except it's from the second book, Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, not the original, and probably closer to 30 or so lines, but who's counting. :P I found that aspect annoying, but of course several adaptations of Alice have used the Jabberwocky before to try to impose some sort of dramatic tension.
#31Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 10:15pm
Most adaptations of Alice fuse both books. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum aren't in Alice in Wonderland, either, but rather in Through the Looking-Glass.
Combining the two books generally causes confusion between the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen, as well.
Back on topic...
The trailer does make it look very similar to the Burton Wonderland. But both share Robert Stromberg as production designer, so I suppose that was inevitable.
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#32Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 10:26pm
The movie looks very promising.
Updated On: 7/12/12 at 10:26 PM
#33Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 10:31pm
Umm, yes they did *coff*
Yeah as a kid it used to really bug me that they'd mix and match the two Alice books--it doesn't really anymore...
#34Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 10:40pmIt's not like it really changes much, since both books are basically a string of "Alice meets someone weird" episodes.
#35Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 10:54pmRi--the films ofteve it more of a narrative arc, but the books, aside from their respective entries into the the rabbit hole/mirror and the climaxes, I guess could be in almost any order (looking Glass maybe a bit less so since they try to follow some rules of chess, but...)
WiCkEDrOcKS
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#36Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/12/12 at 11:55pmALICE IN WONDERLAND was an absolute disaster. Hopefully this is at least a little bit better.
#37Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 12:06amAt is point in their respective careers, I have more faith in Sam Raimi making a compelling film (despite Spiderman 3) than Tim Burton...
#38Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 7:50am
That is a fun fact, and one I'm sure nobody had ever heard before! Except it's from the second book, Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, not the original, and probably closer to 30 or so lines, but who's counting. :P I found that aspect annoying, but of course several adaptations of Alice have used the Jabberwocky before to try to impose some sort of dramatic tension.
Oh! Thanks for the corrections. My girlfriend pointed this out to me a long time ago when we were watching the movie together, so I guess some of the details escaped from my mind. She actually went online and found the poem. I did find it very interesting how they could make an entire movie off of 1 poem.
#39Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 7:54am
Here is the poem:
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! and through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Also, here is Johnny Depp reciting the poem in the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0dhJXUX6I4&feature=related
#40Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 9:52am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyywumlnhdw
Has anyone seen the trailer?
looks exciting.
#41Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 2:22pmI don't think anyone reading this thread has seen the trailer or the previous links posted to it, so thanks! :P
#42Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 2:44pm
Alice in Wonderland is the comparison everyone keeps throwing around, and while there's definitely a fair basis for that conclusion to be made, I personally think that what's happening here visually is far more impressive than anything in that film. Not to mention, this one seems to actually have a story worth telling. I'm excited.
I just wish that Robert Downey Jr. had stayed with the project. James Franco as the Wizard isn't entirely believable to me... seems very hoaky... "I'm James Franco AS The Wizard of Oz!"...
Glad to see Zach Braff doing more, though! Even if it is a small role.
#43Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 2:53pmThe poster and the trailer look wonderful. Very excited about seeing this!
#44Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 3:02pmTo be fair, the marketing team has pointed out that it's from the producer of Alice every chance they get, which I think has also led to the comparison (I know Alice was a huge hit, but I wish they wouldn't--nevermind the fact that many projects share at least one of the same producers and it means little--it's like all the movies sold, particularly in the late 80s, on Spielberg's name when he was a producer but didn't have all that much actual creative involvement, and the films often didn't live up to what audiences would expect from him--they still do it with the TV shows he's one of many producers on like Terra Nova and Smash last year).
#45Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 4:00pmOne of the things I like about this trailer is that it doesn't look like Burton's Alice in Wonderland.
#46Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 6:15pmI've never been satisfied with any version of AIW. The "best" might be the Tom Petty video. At least it was short. Worst offenders: 1930s version and the Irwin Allen version.
#47Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/13/12 at 6:25pm
I think there was a grea thread a while back in the off topic area about AIW adaptations, but yeah it's always been a problemic piece. I admit, I grew up with the Irwin Allen version so kinda adore it, even if I know it's not very good (although Carol Channing singing Jam Tomorrow *is* sheer brilliance only topped by the scene where she becomes a goat). While critics and audiences initially disliked it, I've come to appreciate the Disney version more and more (and I still think the Burton film is a stinking mess).
Anyway, Mister Matt I agree with you--aside from the saturated colours, I guess, it doesn't remind me of Wonderland.
#48Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/16/12 at 11:21amThe movie Is set to be released on March 8th, 2013.
#49Trailer OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL
Posted: 7/16/12 at 11:34amAs far as Alice, I like the Jan Svankmajer freak-out version, and the Tina Majorino/Martin Short/Whoopi Goldberg version has its own bizarre charms.
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