re: Why are people not going crazy over Spring Awakening here [or anywhere]- Page 2

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 12:40pm

most plays written in past 'periods' will same dated and the dramatic structure a bit foreign... in some ways it hampers, and in others, it is part of the charm of seeing those shows I suppose. I don't know any children who speak with the phrasing Barrie employed in PETER PAN, for example, and can't picture they spoke that way even then....

[Phantom2]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 12:42pm

Where in the world is TinyToon?

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 12:44pm

with Babs and Buster Bunny (no relation) at Acme Looniversity

[Becoz_i_knew_you21]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 1:01pm

"The ending is very anti-climatic and it feels like it's trying way too hard to be an edgy musical."

Read the play before you say it is trying to be more edgy.The play is "edgy" enough(even now) and,they wouldn't try to make the musical more edgy.

Updated On: 12/10/06 at 01:01 PM

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 1:12pm

You don't even make sense.

The play was edgy 100 years ago. Not now.

[Phantom2]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 1:14pm

munk- Tell us how you REALLY feel. You crack me up dude.

Updated On: 12/10/06 at 01:14 PM

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 1:18pm

TELL ME!

[Phantom2]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 1:23pm

I was referring to your comment to Becoz.

[Becoz_i_knew_you21]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 1:24pm

Never mind it sounds bad when you put it into words...

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 1:33pm

judging by the response of some of the people, it still seems a bit edgy. lol. sadly.

[OrdinaryJukebox]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 2:41pm

Did someone here actually compare this to "Caroline, or Change"? Say it isn't so. "Caroline, or Change" was the most brilliant thing I've ever seen on Broadway, that closed LONG before it should have, being robbed of any chance it had at financial success. This show could never possibly even come close to that...in my opinion.

Also, I wasn't trying to drag "Wicked" into this thread. I'm not a "Wicked" fanatic, just trying to make a point that when something is considered "cool" by the "non-conformists who are just like everyone else anyway" bunch, it's okay for there to be a million threads. However, if something is popular for a different reasons, it gets dogged at every chance...just making a point, not defending or comparing "Wicked" to this show...

-Vincent

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 3:23pm

Except Caroline, or Change was besieged by problems far more debilitating than Spring Awakening's perceived problems. And both shows were crippled by poetic, meandering lyrics that only really made sense on repeated hearings. At least Spring Awakening's conceit makes sense in context and works for the show.

Munk, if you think nothing in the show is relevant today still, you must have had a pretty breezy time as a teenager!

[Mattbrain]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 3:47pm

"Munk, if you think nothing in the show is relevant today still, you must have had a pretty breezy time as a teenager!"

Munk, you lucky bastard.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 4:18pm

I don't know. Caroline's lyrics made perfect sense to me the first time I heard them at the show's third preview at The Public. I thought that they (and the music and the rest of the show) were very lucid and clever, brilliant even, and didn't find them meandering at all.

[Princeton78]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 4:26pm

"Read the play before you say it is trying to be more edgy.The play is "edgy" enough(even now) and,they wouldn't try to make the musical more edgy. "

I'm not referring to the original play at all. All throughout the show, I got this overwhelming feeling that the cast was saying, "Look at us, we're young teenagers full of repressed hormones and emotion and we're putting an old story in today....throw awards at us."

[TheEnchantedHunter]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 4:35pm

It's a mediocre show that manages to achieve moments of true awfulness. One of the very worst scores ever to hit Broadway.






The Cast of MIDNIGHT FROLIC
At the New Amsterdam

[ruprecht]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 5:50pm

And for once, I totally agree with Enchanted, what's to go crazy over? The best way I can put it is, the show is simply NOT what it desperately wants to be. Don't ask me to explain that, the people who have seen it and also didn't love it know what I mean.

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 6:04pm

I agree with Margo about COC. I have said it before and I will say it again, in my opinion, it is a masterpiece.

While not a masterpiece, I very much enjoyed Spring Awakening. It lays a story out that is very easy to follow and is one that can be related to by many people. And the music is wonderful. I think it is a welcome addition to the shows currently playing on Broadway. JMO

[Mattbrain]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 6:09pm

"It's a mediocre show that manages to achieve moments of true awfulness. One of the very worst scores ever to hit Broadway."

And you're a no good theatre snob who has no business being on this board or even in this business.

[Ourtime992]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 6:11pm

The best thing about this show is the fact that it's getting angsty teenagers away from RENT for 15 minutes.

[Princeton78]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 7:48pm

That's not saying much.

[Becoz_i_knew_you21]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 8:12pm

"It's a mediocre show that manages to achieve moments of true awfulness. One of the very worst scores ever to hit Broadway."

I really doubt that.

[Mattbrain]

Posted: 12/10/06 at 8:54pm

Amen to that!!!!

[TheEnchantedHunter]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:11am

"And you're a no good theatre snob who has no business being on this board or even in this business."

BWOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA!





Tootie 'The Most Horrible' Smith
St. Louis, MO

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:15pm

Hm, I can't agree on Caroline. I thought the point was to meander, what with the burden of magical realism (which I'm usually all for) placed on the show. That whole extra conceit was to allow for the show to explore its bigger themes, wasn't it? For me the show found more meaning in the things it was really about.

I'm not going to lie, sometimes I couldn't even hear what they were saying, but that's an amplification problem. Certainly clever lyrics, and certainly meaningful, but often Kushner was writing poetry, which I think is undeniable considering numbers like "Moon Change". When the show itself was lucid, so were the lyrics. It was purposeful to switch between idioms.

I'm not sayin' it's a bad thing. I really loved that show. It was a lot more ambitious, intellectually and structurally and etc... than most any other musical I've ever seen so it was bound to fall short of its goals, but what it achieved was really brilliant, and it made me cry. That's rare.

O'course, Spring Awakening makes me cry too, and everybody else says it's cold and distant. I'm tellin' ya though... those first 20 minutes of that second act are really bewildering.