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#1

reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Hey All!

So, it's like this: Recently, I had what I look upon as 'luck' of obtaining a pair of tickets to *reasons to be pretty* later this month. Now, I never did catch the show Off-B'way, but since the reviews came out a couple weeks ago, I was taken by the positivity. I'm curious, with those who've ventured to the Lyceum as of late, what's the consensus with regard to the play? Was it worth the money? I'm not too familiar with LaBute, so I'm goin' in there blank...

Any and all insight appreciated.

Best,
- Mike reasons to be pretty - Conensus?
#2

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I thought it was great! But, LaBute is kind of an acquired taste, I think.
#3

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

From what I've read and heard, it's not a new topic, but it's fresh writing, with very strong performances.

How did this so-called "luck" fall into your schedule? I want that "luck" as well.

Mhm.
#4

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

It's pretty great. And while it's perhaps a bit harsher and more realistic in terms of complex relationship issues than most people might be used to from their plays, it's fairly humanistic and compassionate at the end of the day (especially in comparison to past LaBute plays), so I don't see anyone being scarred.
#5

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I didn't enjoy this play at all...but the critics loved it. You should just see it and form your own opinion, Limelight.
#6

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

It's a wonderful play.

But LaBute definitely isn't for optimists. He kinda...takes optimism and crushes it. Except in the play, actually, where the ending is almost hopeful.
#7

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

LaBute is an acquired taste and people tend to be divided on him. I really don't like him anymore, but I think his stuff is worth seeing and forming an opinion on. I think he was fresh and cutting edge and controversial when he started, but now I think people go to his plays to be titillated by how vile he will have characters speak to one another. To me it seems more like a side show act, than really saying anything profound. I'm a therapist, and in my experience, even with couples, people just don't speak to each other like that. His plays are not realistic to me.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#8

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Have you seen THIS play, Bettyboy? I think he shows noticeable growth and maturity as a playwright with it, and branches out from what he's done before.
#10

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I did see this play with Alison Pill off-Broadway and it gave me a headache. It was a histrionic character study IMO. Again, the marketing and the synopsis seem to infer that the play gives some sort of insight into value placed on beauty. I didn't pick up on much of that. It seems liked an exploration on angry, lonely, sad people who take it out on each other-what seems to happen in most of LaBute's plays. I think the set-up that keeps being advertised about a guy who makes an off-hand comment about his girlfriend's looks is tantalizing, but IMO the play never comes close to delivering on that salacious theme.

That being said, I love a challenge and would continue to see his plays to challenge myself and be a part of the dialogue.

Hey, at least they are conversation starters. My friend loved it and we have had some great discussions. :)
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#11

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I thought it was ok. I am a fan of LaBute's work, but I didn't leave the theatre thinking it was remarkable. I by no means thought it was bad. I still enjoyed myself. I just didn't think it was particularly as strong as it could have been (a lot of that has to do with the casting I think). But overall, one of the better plays this season.
#12

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I've been on the fence about LaBute, finding his mysogeny and calculated bleakness a bit much at times.

But I loved this play. I was pulled into the first act, which takes us to more typical LaBute terrain. And then the second act, as happens in some plays, takes the place into unchartered waters, making a case for the first act, and leaving us with one of the most complex and beautiful final scenes I've ever seen, given a remarkable performance by two of the leads, especially Ms. Ireland, who is heartbreaking, real, and in every way extraodrinary. LaBute takes her character on a journey that is -- aside from being almost "anti-LaBute" -- is profoundly moving. This is not a cold evening, and it leaves you with a deeper understanding of the ways all lovers wound one another. For the record, I'm not in the target demographic for this play -- it portrays a generation I'm not actively involved with. But I found the subject, its execution, and every aspect of the writing universal. These people breathe, especially the central couple, and you will care about them, even if reluctantly at first. Finally, it's just great to see any artist stretch, to not repeat, and LaBute proves he's the real deal here. He doesn't resort to trickery or story gimmicks. He lets this simple but not simplistic story unfold very organically -- with great humanity.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#13

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Saw it last week--- thought the 2nd Act dragged just a tad, but overall... great production with excellent cast !
#14

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Auggie, I appreciate what you have to say about the play and I liked your insights but I walked away from it not caring a whip about any of the characters. Maybe the new casting helps. Allison Pill portrayed a grating and overbearing character and I had no sympathy for her.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#15

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I'm sorry Auggie, but great humanity? Are you referring to the constant verbal abuse or the unnecessary physical violence? And I'm surprised you say that LaBute takes her character on a journey, when it is the male character who is the focus. Who's to say she won't snap one day and verbally assault her new husband?

And Bettyboy, no the character is still overbearing and insane.
#16

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I think it was fairly good - LaBute could've done more with the subject matter and made it a little more hard-hitting, but it was decent, and Steven Pasquale was hilarious.
#17

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Believe me, I quite understood that it's the male character who is the protagonist. But like most good writers, LaBute charts journeys for the other three characters as well, all of whom end up in different places than at the start. I found the Ireland Steph's arc to be quite rich and compelling. She starts in high dudgeon, in a state of rage and abject humiliation. She segues into revenge, then shaky self-acceptance, and (MILD SPOILER) ends up with self-knowledge, growth, and making a leap toward blistering honesty about her deepest, contradictory (a fantasy of security vs. her heart) feelings. All of which mirror, or work in couterpoint to, the Sadoski Greg's equally powerful journey.

Love it or not, this is a play, not (just) an idea for a play! It takes a common situation, one might say a cliche, and digs in.

I'm the last person to be a LaBute defender. All too often, I have found his work to be gimmicky and facile in extreme (The Shape of Things, exhibit A), despite many natural some might say extraordinary gifts (he has a helluva ear, he knows how to shape a story so that it actually comes to something...) But with this script, he does move forward bigtime. In a way, it's the anti-LaBute spin on the LaBute world. (SPOILER) When the two men are leading into the fight, and a weary, disillusioned Greg tries hard to resist, and articulates his loathing of the way men employe such violent challenges to one another -- how fights strip them of complexity and maturity -- it's just a damned honest moment. As are the multiple shifts in the final scene. This is a thoughtful play that seeks to illuminate, not distract or play to its supposed cynical base. Ultimately, the play is devoid of cynicism.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#18

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I went to the matinee today. House was hardly half full - orchestra maybe 75%, 45 people in mezzanine, balcony closed.

I read the play beforehand, but I have never seen a LaBute play performed. His work may be an acquired taste but it isn't mine. Everything is heightened - the emotions, the reactions, the attitudes, as though everyone is both depressed and speaking in capital letters all the time. The humor - such as it is - is predictable and frequently sophomoric. But I would have to say that the acting was 3/4 spell-binding. Piper Perabo is not up to the level of the rest of the cast, although her part is also the smallest. But the other three were wonderful, especially Sadoski as Greg. The performances rose above and enhanced the writing - but I probably won't be beating down any doors to see more LaBute.
#19

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

This was my first experience with a LaBute play and I was totally pleased by what I saw, even though the understudy for Steph went on. I love LaBute's use of language and I agree that the ending give some shreds of tentative hope for the protoganist -- he has grown considerably by the end. In no ways was I bored and I heartily recommend it for students of what's going on in the American Theatre today.
BroadwayEd
#21

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Has anyone seen this show lately?

I have a good friend in New York who got a nicely discounted ticket, and he has been raving about it. He was really impressed with the writing and performances and enjoyed the edginess of it. He wouldn't tell me much about the story because he didn't want to ruin it, but he said the end was heartbreaking.

I'm just impressed that there is a play on Broadway that doesn't have a celebrity as a star. I'm curious how it will do with Tony noms on Tuesday, and I'm now antsy to get to New York to see it!
So, that was the Drowsy Chaperone. Oh, I love it so much. I know it's not a perfect show...but it does what a musical is supposed to do. It takes you to another world, and it gives you a little tune to carry with you in your head for when you're feeling blue. Ya know?
#22

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I'm not a LaBute fan, so even after the mostly positive reviews, I wasn't particularly looking forward to seeing it.

I was pleasantly surprised. I think the reviews were much too kind, but overall it was ok - nothing I'd necessarily want to see again, but I was reasonably entertained and not bored.
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#23

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

I definitely enjoyed it and thought it was a good play with great performances. I loved Thomas Sadoski (absolutely heartbreaking) and thought Marin Ireland was great too. I just kind of regret seeing it by myself because I feel like it is one of those plays that could start up interesting conversations (judging from those around me during intermission) and I kind of missed out on that. I would recommend seeing it if possible!
#24

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Thanks for the input!
So, that was the Drowsy Chaperone. Oh, I love it so much. I know it's not a perfect show...but it does what a musical is supposed to do. It takes you to another world, and it gives you a little tune to carry with you in your head for when you're feeling blue. Ya know?
#25

re: reasons to be pretty - Conensus?

Another take:

Reasons to Yawn at Neil LaBute
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter

Updated On: 5/7/09 at 12:51 AM

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