[title of show] : IT'S BROADWAY DREAMS COME TRUE

[LYNX71]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 1:51pm

http://pwipop.com/features.php?feature=16

[title of show] - The show's dreams have become a real, but now that they have, can it succeed?

Article about [tos] for this new pop culture site.

Enjoy!

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 2:02pm

This isn't a show for Bridge and Tunnel theater goers, but one that appeals closer to the Broadway die-hard. And therein lies the problem.

I'm getting tired of this line of thought. Show-biz stories have served as metaphors for everyone else's life for decades. [title of show] is no more inside than A Chorus Line.

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 2:23pm

LYNX71, that's your article.

its / it's

Get them right.

URINETOWN was in no way a failure. In addition to receiving raves from critics, it returned its investment and won three Tony Awards.

The only reason URINETOWN closed was because its lease was up and the theatre owners were shutting down the theatre permanently. There were no theatres available at the time in order for URINETOWN to transfer, so they completed their money-making run.

[broadwayjim42]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 2:51pm

You stole my thunder WBAF...the English major in me was getting twitchy.

[WestVillage]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 3:15pm

"[title of show] is no more inside than A Chorus Line."

I completely disagree with that. [tos] is chocked full of references to flop Broadway shows and Broadway celebrities like Christine Ebersole that only the true die-hards would know. ACL references stars like Robert Goulet, Gwen Verdon, Troy Donahue, Jill St. John ... all much more well known than someon like Emily Skinner.

[Smaxie]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 4:13pm

Here's the NY Times story, simultaneously announcing Urinetown's recoupment and the closing of its theatre.
"A Hit Show in the Cold"

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 6:20pm

ACL references stars like Robert Goulet, Gwen Verdon, Troy Donahue, Jill St. John

My point stands. The references in both shows are the specificity that makes the characters simultaneously individual and universal.

[IsolatingAge]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 9:39pm

I don't know if this means much, but there were a lot of old matinée ladies when I saw it last Saturday, and as my companion said "They can't all be Hunter's mom." I liked what Susan said about how old matinée ladies have lived through "Death, divorce, children, and wars. I think they can handle me dropping the F bomb."

[GIZMO2]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 9:59pm

I've seen the show on Broadway twice -- once during a matinee and once on a regular weeknight.

During the matinee no less than five groups of little-old-ladies stood up and left the show before it was over. In fact, one forced almost 10 people to stand up -- just feet away from the stage, mind you -- so she could carefully make her way to the aisle and then to the door. And at what point during the musical did she choose to do this? Yup, you guessed it: right at the beginning of "A Way Back to Then." I saw it all from the balcony, somewhat horrified.

You have to admit that it's fun to watch people who really don't know what they're in for when they come to see [tos]. When they first see the set, they probably figure it's going to be like DROWSY CHAPERONE, where everything in front of you changes as the story moves forward. . . . But then, when it doesn't, and they've paid anywhere from $50 to $111 for a ticket . . .

Well, let's just say I doubt that all those little old women were rushing out of the theater midway through the production to "call their 9 friends."

Broadway.com should have modified its review: THIS IS NOT A SHOW FOR TODDLERS AND STUPID PEOPLE AND OLD LADIES WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING THEMSELVES INTO.

Cheers.

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 7/23/08 at 11:22pm

Funny, GIZMO2.

You've been a member here for four days, and all you've posted have been negative comments about [tos].

[Boq101]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 2:53am

GIZMO, you COMMIE!

welcome to BWW!

I will start by just saying right off the bat: s o r r y !

[2blocksfrombway]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 1:00pm

I have to say, I am completely dumbfounded by some of the vitriol that is spouted at [tos]! I don't think I have ever gone to the theatre and hated something so much it made me angry enough to join a message board with the sole purpose of posting negative comments. I love going to the theatre! Sometimes I have a great time and sometimes.....not so much. Everyone has different tastes. But, I believe there is room for everything. You like PASSING STRANGE, I like SPRING AWAKENING.

What I don't understand is how some posters just want [tos] to fail. Why? How is this show hurting YOU? Why do you begrudge its success? Whatever your feelings may be about the piece, it has clearly affected many theatregoers in a very profound way. Whether you like [tos] or not, there is no denying this fact. And if all that [tos] accomplishes is to inspire a new generation of artists to create, then that is a good thing.

It's interesting to me that the show affects people so strongly on both sides of the aisle, so to speak. I consider that successful art. For those who LOVE it, it inspires and warms their heart. For those who HATE it, it must strike some kind of nerve in them that spurs them to anger. Either way, it has emotionally affected both in some manner. And isn't that what art is all about?

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 1:12pm

Beautifully put, 2blocksfrombway.

[WickedBoy2]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 1:17pm

[closing notices] NOW!

[2blocksfrombway]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 1:29pm

You have illustrated my point EXACTLY!!! OK.....so, from your post, I assume you did not like the show. That's fine. Not your cup of tea. No problem. But, WHY do you want it to close??????? How is this show's existence harming you?

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 1:31pm

WickedBoy2 lives in the UK and has not even seen [tos].

One wonders why he even wastes his and our time posting on this message board about shows he never sees.

[Dolly_Levi]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 1:31pm

I think the over the top negativity only balances the over the top fandom. Both are quite extreme for this piece. Not sure why. It def. evokes a strong response.

Updated On: 7/24/08 at 01:31 PM

[fflagg]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 2:42pm

Next week the cast of [tos] will find the cure for cancer.

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 2:50pm

fflagg, this is a Broadway message board. So the topic that is taken seriously here is Broadway shows. Your analogy is silly.

It hurts seeing other people achieve their dreams while you sit on your ass stuck in a miserable existence, I'm sure.

But no need to spread that bitterness around.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/24/08 at 3:07pm

Gizmo2 said, lying though his teeth:

During the matinee no less than five groups of little-old-ladies stood up and left the show before it was over.

"No less than five groups of little-old-ladies" just sounds like a lie.

Next time bashing something with made-up stories, try a little harder.

[Insider2]

Posted: 7/25/08 at 12:33pm

The Variety review put it better than I ever could:

"A cute little workshop musical that was inoffensive in its downtown setting catering to its downtown claque, "[title of show]" stands pathetically naked on Broadway. Show's whimsical conceit -- to construct an original musical from moment-by-moment minutiae in the lives of its collaborators -- survives the transfer intact, as do the original creatives. But stripped of satirical edge for its heavy Broadway date, the backstage show by Hunter Bell (book) and Jeff Bowen (score) is revealed in all its narcissism, flaunting its shallow aesthetic values and taking unseemly pride in its inflated ambitions."

I really disliked this show so much. It is so smug and masturbatory (if that is even a word), and how it ever got to Broadway will go down as one of the great theatrical mysteries of this century.

[WonderRobbie]

Posted: 7/25/08 at 1:34pm

Lord... this reminds me of May 2007 when certain "people" said that Xanadu was going to open and close the same day because it wasn't a big fancy show or a revival... Now almost a year and half later, it's STILL open, received 4 Tony noms and has no sign of closing in the near future as far as I know.

To quote Mr. Bell, "I love commenting on things I've never seen before."

And to quote Ms. Blackwell, "S*ck it."

Updated On: 7/25/08 at 01:34 PM

[WestVillage]

Posted: 7/25/08 at 4:01pm

"It hurts seeing other people achieve their dreams while you sit on your ass stuck in a miserable existence, I'm sure."

This is WBAF's typical response to anyone who doesn't like something he does. He accuses them of being miserable human beings who are jealous of other people's success.

WBAF .. does it ever occur to you that some people just don't like [tos]? And that's ok. Personally, my dreams have come true more than I ever could have imagined (but I would never be so egotistical and self-serving as to bore other people by exposing them in any medium), but I still think [tos] is a [pos].

Updated On: 7/25/08 at 04:01 PM