Flops That Got Revivals
Flops That Got Revivals
#1Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:04pm
Which flops have gotten revivals?
I know it's happend a few times. Such as Peter Pan.
Zeitoujo
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/3/06
#2re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:08pm
....what ljay?
How the heck could you possibly think Sondheim shows are FLOPS. I'm in shock right now...
gypsy4
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/07
#3re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:10pm
peter pan was not a flop but a show that needs one is Annie Warbucks.
Updated On: 7/13/08 at 10:10 PM
#4re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:10pmSweetie. Most of his shows (besides maybe 2) were financial flops. Any good Sondheim fans admit it.
gypsy4
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/07
Zeitoujo
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/3/06
#6re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:12pm....what were flops??????
Zeitoujo
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/3/06
#8re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:13pmCats- specifically I was asking ljay what he thought were Sondheim flops....no need for the sarcasm....
#9re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:14pm
Anyone Can Whistle
Follies
Pacific Overtures
Merrily We Roll Along
Sunday In The Park with George
Passion
were all flops. I'm not counting his lyrical shows.
I believe SWEENEY and WOODS earned back their investments over time.
It's not what I "think." These are facts.
Updated On: 7/14/08 at 10:14 PM
gypsy4
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/07
Zeitoujo
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/3/06
#11re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:16pmSITPWG was a flopp?!
ashley0139
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/3/05
#12re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:17pm
Cats- specifically I was asking ljay what he thought were Sondheim flops....no need for the sarcasm....
Um, I'm pretty sure that wasn't sarcasm considering that's the definition of a flop. It's true- almost all of Sondheim's shows are flops.
#13re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:17pm
Yes.
and Gypsy4 this is common info. Do some research.
#14re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:18pmUm, yeah. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. You seemed genuinely uninformed.
#15re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:18pm
I believe frontrowcentre has been continually updating a thread that lists all of the flops and hits according to info from Variety.
Here it is:
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?boardid=1&boardname=bway&thread=961789#3604376
Updated On: 7/13/08 at 10:18 PM
#16re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:20pmGypsy4, 150 or somthing shows is NOT a flop? Peter Pan only ran that many with Mary Martin originally and yet still got 2 TV broadcasts of the entire show.
gypsy4
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/07
#17re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:24pm
I would say it wasn't a flop for that time and for a show to get two T.V broadcast I would say that is successful you don't see broadway shows haveing there own T.V broadcasting now a days do you there is not that very much.
Updated On: 7/13/08 at 10:24 PM
#18re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:25pmNone of that matters. If it didn't make back its initial investment then it's a flop.
#19re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:29pmCharlie Brown was a flop oiginally. Also didn't the revival flop as well?
sally1112
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/13/04
#20re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:35pm
We fight about this all the time.
Many people only think of flops as shows like Carrie or Glory Days, where as people more informed about theater use the technical term which says a flop is a show that doesn't make back it's investment.
By that technical definition a show like Grey Gardens, that ran for a year, received moderate to good reviews, played to 70% percent capacity, and won a couple of Tonys for its stars-- is still a flop because it did not make back all its initial investment. Scenarios such as this make the term "flop" a difficult word.
Maryjoannejean
Understudy Joined: 2/25/06
commasplice
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/29/04
#24re: Flops That Got Revivals
Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:53pm
Herb Gardner's play, "The Goodbye People," closed after 7 performances in 1968. It was revived in 1979 and closed on opening night.
The original Broadway production of "The Rocky Horror Show" closed in a month, but after the movie became a cult hit the revival ran for over 2 years.
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