Flops That Got Revivals

#1

Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:04pm

Which flops have gotten revivals?

I know it's happend a few times. Such as Peter Pan.

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Updated On: 7/13/08 at 10:04 PM

#2

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:06pm

All of Sondheim's shows

#3

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:08pm

....what ljay?
How the heck could you possibly think Sondheim shows are FLOPS. I'm in shock right now...

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#4

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:10pm

peter pan was not a flop but a show that needs one is Annie Warbucks.

Updated On: 7/13/08 at 10:10 PM

#5

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:10pm

Sweetie. Most of his shows (besides maybe 2) were financial flops. Any good Sondheim fans admit it.

#6

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:11pm

Gypsy was a Flop?

#7

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:12pm

....what were flops??????

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#8

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:13pm

Shows that don't turn a profit.

#9

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:13pm

Cats- specifically I was asking ljay what he thought were Sondheim flops....no need for the sarcasm....

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#10

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:14pm

Anyone Can Whistle
Follies
Pacific Overtures
Merrily We Roll Along
Sunday In The Park with George
Passion

were all flops. I'm not counting his lyrical shows.

I believe SWEENEY and WOODS earned back their investments over time.
It's not what I "think." These are facts.

Updated On: 7/14/08 at 10:14 PM

#11

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:16pm

are you getting this from wikipedia?

#12

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:16pm

SITPWG was a flopp?!

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#13

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:17pm

Cats- specifically I was asking ljay what he thought were Sondheim flops....no need for the sarcasm....

Um, I'm pretty sure that wasn't sarcasm considering that's the definition of a flop. It's true- almost all of Sondheim's shows are flops.

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#14

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:17pm

Yes.

and Gypsy4 this is common info. Do some research.

#15

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:18pm

Um, yeah. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. You seemed genuinely uninformed.

#16

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:18pm

I believe frontrowcentre has been continually updating a thread that lists all of the flops and hits according to info from Variety.

Here it is:

https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?boardid=1&boardname=bway&thread=961789#3604376

Updated On: 7/13/08 at 10:18 PM

#17

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:20pm

Gypsy4, 150 or somthing shows is NOT a flop? Peter Pan only ran that many with Mary Martin originally and yet still got 2 TV broadcasts of the entire show.

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#18

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:24pm

I would say it wasn't a flop for that time and for a show to get two T.V broadcast I would say that is successful you don't see broadway shows haveing there own T.V broadcasting now a days do you there is not that very much.

Updated On: 7/13/08 at 10:24 PM

#19

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:25pm

None of that matters. If it didn't make back its initial investment then it's a flop.

#20

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:29pm

Charlie Brown was a flop oiginally. Also didn't the revival flop as well?

#21

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:35pm

We fight about this all the time.
Many people only think of flops as shows like Carrie or Glory Days, where as people more informed about theater use the technical term which says a flop is a show that doesn't make back it's investment.

By that technical definition a show like Grey Gardens, that ran for a year, received moderate to good reviews, played to 70% percent capacity, and won a couple of Tonys for its stars-- is still a flop because it did not make back all its initial investment. Scenarios such as this make the term "flop" a difficult word.

#22

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:42pm

OH hell yes

#23

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:45pm

ljay, A Little Night Music recouped.

#24

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:52pm

Candide!

Again and again.

#25

re: Flops That Got Revivals

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:53pm

Herb Gardner's play, "The Goodbye People," closed after 7 performances in 1968. It was revived in 1979 and closed on opening night.

The original Broadway production of "The Rocky Horror Show" closed in a month, but after the movie became a cult hit the revival ran for over 2 years.