I disagree, but whatever. I'm just bitter about Matilda losing to Kinky Boots. I guess my comment was irrelevant to the thread.
yeah even though i liked Kinky Boots more, Matilda was probably more worthy
As Michael Riedel reported, after Matilda premiered at the Royal Shakespeare Company, so many Broadway producers immediately went after it placing the best possible offer they can. The RSC left them dangling and dangling, until they went with The Dodgers at the last minute, and all those producers felt screwed by them!
And that my friends was what kind of played into the fact that Kinky Boots beat it for Best Musical.
Makes sense. Matilda is a much better show than Kinky Boots. Not even in the same league. So of course politics got Kinky the tony.
I'm still pissed off that Kinky Boots got Best Score & Best Choreography over Matilda, which both had brilliant music and choreography. BS wins, IMO. Esepecially Best Score. Kinky Boots's music was nothing special at all and only won because of Cyndi Lauper.
Jeffery: That's the stupidest reason I ever heard. It should be about the art, not who produces it.
Updated On: 2/20/15 at 07:46 AM
I mean, it's not the only reason. What Jeff said may have had some pull, but even without this supposed producer backlash, Kinky probably would have still won. Nothing says TONY like "Everybody say Yeah Yeah X 1000.
I think KINKY deserved to win. From my experience seeing both shows multiple times, the audiences go absolutely ape-sh*t for Kinky, while the reaction at Matilda is polite/tepid. I think that played a huge part of Kinky's win, it is just so damn audience friendly and instantly pleasing. The score of Matilda is not as appealing on a first listen. Having seen Matilda four times, I found it a little tiring and boring on the third and fourth times, seemed to lose its luster for me. Kinky all the way, in my opinion.
Anyone else here see IT SHOULDA BEEN YOU when it played in NJ? Easily one of the worst musicals I've seen in more than 50 years of show going. Why or how this show got the financial backing to come to Broadway is a mystery. Stars of the calibre of Tyne Daly and Harriet Harris deserve far better than this. Weak book and songs add up to nothing. "Fluff?" At best. And yet great shows like BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY and the ON THE TOWN (and sadly, possibly FUN HOME) struggle to stay open, because they don't have the stars to pre-sell their shows.
"I think KINKY deserved to win. From my experience seeing both shows multiple times, the audiences go absolutely ape-sh*t for Kinky, while the reaction at Matilda is polite/tepid. I think that played a huge part of Kinky's win, it is just so damn audience friendly and instantly pleasing."
That certainly didn't work in favor of Newsies nor Beautiful (most likely due to the fact that both those shows were already so commercially viable, that voters might have felt they didn't need Tonys).
I personally found Matilda to be a MUCH better show than Kinky Boots. I LOVED Matilda while I *liked* Kinky Boots. And as far as the scores go, there is absolutely no compassion. Matilda's score is a musical masterpiece IMO.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/24/09
Another one here who loved Matilda and still can't believe at least the score didn't win, that fantastic, genius score. But of course it was politics and not merit! That's ALL awards are! Let's all look forward to seeing that in action again on Sunday!
As for the Tonys, it seems like everyone is saying Chita is a lock and not Kelli or Kristin. Is that just because she's Chita or is The Visit really that good of a vehicle for her?
Is that just because she's Chita or is The Visit really that good of a vehicle for her?
From what I have read it's a little bit of both. This is Chita's last "hoorah", and it is also an extremely great role for her. That's just my understanding from reading people's thoughts on here. I am waiting to see Kelli's performance before writing her off for another loss. Either way, this will be an exciting Tony season! I definitely see The Visit getting a nod for best scenic design. Just from the photos alone, the set is BREATHTAKING.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/24/09
Thanks good to know! I mean hell, who can be upset about Kelli losing again if it's to Chita in her last hurrah, right?
Kander and ebb for best score anyone? Or is Jenine Tesoro a lock?
As far as it Shoulda been you is concerned, wasn't that run in nj in 2008? I'm sure they've made many many changes to the show. I see this being the little small show that could like xanadu and gentlemans guide
"Kander and Ebb for best score anyone? Or is Jeanine Tesori a lock?"
We'll have to wait and see how the rest of the potential candidates turn out first?
*Doctor Zhivago-Music By Lucy Simon, Lyrics By Michael Korie & Amy Powers
*Finding Neverland-Music & Lyrics By Gary Barlow & Elliot Kennedy
*Fun Home-Music By Jeanine Tesori, Lyrics By Lisa Kron
*Honeymoon in Vegas-Music & Lyrics By Jason Robert Brown
*It Shoulda Been You-Music By Barbra Anselmi, Lyrics By Brian Hargrove
*The Last Ship-Music & Lyrics By Sting
*Something Rotten!-Music & Lyrics By Wayne Kirkpatrick & Karey Kirkpatrick
*The Visit-Music By John Kander, Lyrics By Fred Ebb
^Jeffrey
If Hamilton moves to Broadway this season it's a lock for best score win!
If not, I predict nominations:
*Fun Home-Music By Jeanine Tesori, Lyrics By Lisa Kron
*The Visit-Music By John Kander, Lyrics By Fred Ebb
*Honeymoon in Vegas-Music & Lyrics By Jason Robert Brown
*The Last Ship-Music & Lyrics By Sting OR *Something Rotten!-Music & Lyrics By Wayne Kirkpatrick & Karey Kirkpatrick
***Is this field 4 nominations or possibly 5?
^As of now, it appears to be four. I would also like to put in a good word for (what I've heard of) Lucy Simon's score for Doctor Zhivago.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/24/09
The race/season seems much more crowded this year than in the past few, doesn't it?
Does Legend Judy Kuhn have a shot at a nom this year for FUN HOME? Her voice is so beautiful ... Can't believe she doesn't have a Tony!!
yes she does!! I think her or Sydney Lucas will win
MUSICAL
Fun Home
Finding Neverland
Something Rotten
The Visit
Musical Revival
On the 20th Century
On The Town
Side Show
The King & I
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
I'm not sure which rules are different for this year but in the past Score is four nominees. If it's four it will be:
Kander and Ebb, The Visit
Sting, The Last Ship
Tesori & Kron, Fun Home
and the last is up for grabs.
Best Play:
Hand to God
Airline Highway
Curious Incident
Disgraced
Updated On: 3/16/15 at 04:46 PM
"I'm not sure which rules are different for this year but in the past Score is four nominees. If it's four it will be:
Kander and Ebb, The Visit
Sting, The Last Ship
Tesori & Kron, Fun Home
and the last is up for grabs."
I'm pretty sure the amount of nominations for Best Original Score this year will stay the same.
Other potential candidates that I think have a good shot are:
Doctor Zhivago-Lucy Simon, Michael Korie, & Amy Powers
Finding Neverland-Gary Barlow & Eliot Kennedy
Honeymoon in Vegas-Jason Robert Brown
Wild Cards:
It Shoulda Been You-Barbara Anselmi & Brian Hargrove
Something Rotten!-Wayne Kirkpatrick & Karey Kirkpatrick
The reason I have both those shows listed as wild cards for right now is because not a lot of people on these boards were particularly impressed with the videos from the press coverage.
Updated On: 3/16/15 at 05:28 PM
I really liked the music from their press events, however the reason i agree they are wild cards is because they aren't as big as Tesori, JRB, K&E, Sting, or even the composers of finding Neverland, and Doctor Zhivago
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