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Scott Rudin takedown
#500Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/24/22 at 1:30pm
JSquared2 said: "JayElle said: "Good read LizzieCurry. At least we now know the West Side Story a holdup, among possibly others. Kinda figured it was in this twisted contractual mess.
"Sources familiar with theNew York Times-Rudin relationship say he provided one of the biggest ad revenue streams...."
Money talks, BS walks. Not surprised the NYT wouldn't touch Mr. Rude until other media did.
If a district attorney/grand jury indicts Mr. Rude alaWeinstein, those industry folks who remained silent willrunfar from him. Until then, expect his entertainment lawyers togetenormousexit payouts and keep Rude's participation low-key elsewhere.
On what crime(s)exactly would you have a DA file charges in order to have a grand jury indict Rudin? I don't think being a "big meanie" would hold up in court.
Apparently on the charge of being "alaWeinstein" whatever that means.
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#501Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 3:29pm
sinister teashop said: "JSquared2 said: "JayElle said: "Good read LizzieCurry. At least we now know the West Side Story a holdup, among possibly others. Kinda figured it was in this twisted contractual mess.
"Sources familiar with theNew York Times-Rudin relationship say he provided one of the biggest ad revenue streams...."
Money talks, BS walks. Not surprised the NYT wouldn't touch Mr. Rude until other media did.
If a district attorney/grand jury indicts Mr. Rude alaWeinstein, those industry folks who remained silent willrunfar from him. Until then, expect his entertainment lawyers togetenormousexit payouts and keep Rude's participation low-key elsewhere.
On what crime(s)exactly would you have a DA file charges in order to have a grand jury indict Rudin? I don't think being a "big meanie" would hold up in court.
Apparently on the charge of being "alaWeinstein"whatever that means.
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Weinstein is serving a 23-year prison sentence for multiple instances of first, second and third degree rape -- so no it isn't the same thing. Rudin has been quietly testing the waters and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's back with a new project or two in 2023.
If being a "big ole meanie" is a felony that a DA would bring to a grand jury, then MANY of the people on this board (myself included) would be on death row!
#502Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 4:22pm
But that's kinda soft-pedaling it, isn't it? We're talking about abuse. Physical and mental abuse. Not just a grouchy guy. No, his actions aren't identical to Weinstein's, but that doesn't make his behavior acceptable. I'm not even sure it makes it legal.
#503Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 4:22pm
as rehearsed back before this thread died a natural death, Rudin definitely committed crimes (assault, battery, menacing, etc.) which may be misdemeanors or felonies but that were not pursued in light of his stepping back. Should he decide to return, the question will be whether he has actually dealt with his serious issues. If not, his return will be brief. See Drabinsky, Garth. lol
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#504Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 4:35pm
HogansHero said: "as rehearsed back before this thread died a natural death, Rudin definitely committed crimes (assault, battery, menacing, etc.) which may be misdemeanors or felonies but that were not pursued in light of his stepping back. Should he decide to return, the question will be whether he has actually dealt with his serious issues. If not, his return will be brief. See Drabinsky, Garth. lol"
Not at all comparable. Show business will forgive awful behavior if it results in successes (and dollars) -- it does NOT forgive failure (especially if said failure ran out on the last check)!
#505Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 4:41pm
JSquared2 said: "Show business will forgive awful behavior if it results in successes (and dollars) -- it does NOT forgive failure (especially if said failure ran out on the last check)!"
That may have been true once upon a time but no more and that is demonstrated by what happened to Rudin. If he returns and misbehaves, there will be consequences, and the whole point of our current legal framework is that it is not up to "show business" because individual victims have an arsenal of remedies.
I'll acknowledge that the comparison was not especially apt tho.
#506Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 5:46pm
Aaron Sorkin on Scott Rudin: “Scott Got What He Deserves”
An exclusive interview with Sorkin as his smash adaptation of To Kill a Mockingbird reopens on Broadway, without its disgraced producer.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/09/aaron-sorkin-on-scott-rudin-scott-got-what-he-deserves
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
#507Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 5:50pm
Broadway Shockers 2021: The Fall of Mega-Producer Scott Rudin 2021 was the year Rudin's notorious reputation finally caught up with him.
https://www.theatermania.com/broadway/news/broadway-shockers-2021-the-fall-of-scott-rudin_93133.html
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
#508Scott Rudin takedown
Posted: 12/26/22 at 5:56pm
joevitus said: "But that's kinda soft-pedaling it, isn't it? We're talking about abuse. Physical and mental abuse. Not just a grouchy guy. No, his actions aren't identical to Weinstein's, but that doesn't make his behavior acceptable. I'm not even sure it makes it legal."
Yeah it's a bit like saying well, Harvey Weinstein isn't Jeffrey Dahmer. The behaviors described about Rudin (smashing someone's hand into a laptop, other physical abuse) go way, way beyond being a "mean boss."
