2018 Oscar Nominations Thread (post and whinge about them here) — Page 2

Didn't the Oscar balloting close before the Franco scandal broke?

Surprised and sad Hammer didn't make the list. And no nomination for In a Heartbeat for Animated Short?!??! WTF? Remember Me deserves the Oscar for Best Song. Mystery of Love is the only other song I think comes close. Happy Baby Driver got tossed a couple of bones for Sound and Editing. I think it deserved more, but being a summer release "action" flick was already an uphill battle and the Spacey scandal only impeded it further, which is a shame.

Has anyone seen Roman J. Israel, Esq? Denzel kept popping up on the short lists, but I've never seen anyone even mention the film, much less his performance.

MOLLY'S GAME was nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay, but nothing else. Which is crap. I found it infinitely more enjoyable than DARKEST HOUR, GET OUT, LADY BIRD, and THE POST.

Updated On: 1/23/18 at 12:44 PM

*SPOILERS for 3 Billboards*

Mister Matt, there's a scene where the guy comes into the gift shop. He's angry, throws things at Frances. And then he ends up not being the suspect. So why did he come into the gift shop so angry? Why was he throwing **** at her? What motivated that? And why did Harrelson have a hot British wife in the middle of nowhere Missouri where everyone else had a thick accent?

I think it would have been a better written movie, if they had had some line in there about why he was so outraged in the gift shop. To me, looking back, that scene just seemed to put in there so we'd think it was him, because obviously why else would he be so pissed, but the fact that they never explain why he's so pissed to me just makes the movie messy. It was a bit too obvious of a decoy.

The man in the gift shop is not just a red herring, but he also represents the degree of rampant misogyny she's facing. He legitimizes her efforts and balances the story when the villain was being portrayed as an over-the-top psycho in a broader sense of being a white trash bigot, this other character comes along to more sharply focus on the topic that drives the character's primary motivations.

To me, looking back, that scene just seemed to put in there so we'd think it was him, because obviously why else would he be so pissed, but the fact that they never explain why he's so pissed to me just makes the movie messy.

He's pissed because like most people in the area, he knows who she is and what she's up to, which ruins his fun. He was bragging to a friend in a bar about raping a girl! In light of the past year, how is this messy or demand explanation? Remember the white supremacist Preppy march with tiki torches, polo shirts and khakis? That's the mindset this man represents.

I couldn't get past the nauseating redemption arc for Sam Rockwell's racist cop character.

I found it interesting because, in the end, isn't that one of the goals in achieving equality? The ending of the film is asking for our opinion, not strictly feeding it to us. It's about the subjectivity of justice, which can't be easily defined by means of legislation

Updated On: 1/23/18 at 02:22 PM

Man, Armie Hammer and Michael Stuhlbarg's snubs hurt.

RippedMan said: "Mister Matt, the guy in the gift shop was from out of town. Hence them driving to another state. So how would he know who she is? There’s no mention that they are connected in anyway. He just walks in and starts throwing stuff and being very aggressive, but it’s not rooted in anything. I just don’t think it’s a good sceeenplay or movie. It’s has moments of brilliance - Frances’ speech - but most of the time felt odd and disjointed. The British wife."

I'm with you. Also, what are the odds there's a different guy running around raping women and setting them on fire? The crime the man brags about is too specific in execution and location to simply be a believable red herring.



Mister Matt said: "Has anyone seen Roman J. Israel, Esq? Denzel kept popping up on the short lists, but I've never seen anyone even mention the film, much less his performance."

I saw it; its completely mediocre, botching an interesting enough premise with too many outlandish and implausible plot contrivances. The film ultimately can't decide what it wants to be about. Washington is good, but he's trapped in a bad film.

Ripped Man and anybody else who is interested. The dvd of Get Out has an alternate ending, which in my opinion is more credible. My redbox rental did not have special features. So if you do a search, do Get Out alternate ending and you can see it on youtube. (sorry don't know how to provide the link)

I def need to see some of the other films. I'm such a big Martin McDonagh fan, so was just so bummed with "3 Billboards." And thank, The Quibbler, you basically expressed what I couldn't say. It all just felt too neat and clean, and yet so messy with the storytelling. And in the end nothing was resolved. And I felt like the flashback to her and her daughter was laughable. Like, really, she says "Go and get raped" and then she does....a little on the nose, Martin. Dumb.

I agree the inclusion of a racist character does not mean a film is racist. My problem with 3 Billboards (one of many) is that the film takes the time to provide that character with a redemptive (and unbelievable) charachter arc, and doesn't spend one second exploring the pain and suffering that character has caused others. It was uncomfortable to watch. Especially considering the very real problem this country has with police brutatlity.

Your Guide to the Three Billboards Backlash

"On Twitter, NPR’s Gene Demby has been one of the leading voices against Three Billboards, calling the film’s rapturous reception at Toronto an indictment of the whiteness of the critical establishment: “I think festival audiences are so used to the centrality of white people’s inner lives treated as the Actual Emotional Stakes that they don’t get what’s janky about a movie set in a town where cops torture black [people] but the plot is about thwarted justice for a white lady,” he wrote in one thread. Other media outlets soon followed suit. The Washington Post’s Alyssa Rosenberg has written how the film’s handling of Dixon undermines its own moral convictions. At the Daily Beast, Ira Madison III, a McDonagh fan, called the film “unearned, manipulative and altogether offensive.” The HuffPost’s Zeba Blaycompared it to a white liberal’s racist uncle."

http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/oscars-2018-your-guide-to-the-three-billboards-backlash.html

Updated On: 1/24/18 at 09:17 AM

The Shape of Water had an overall beautiful production, but the story at its core was as trite as it can get.

I feel the same. It was visually stunning and it was...cute. A modern day fairy tale. I love Del Toro's work, especially Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth, but this felt like it was lightened up to be the next Amelie or something. I really enjoyed it, but didn't feel like it was a Best Picture winner. I do think it will win for Score.