Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Oh boy. FindingNamo: an outlier once again.
You're just a rebel.
It's okay, we still like you.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Speaking of, why isn't there one well-chosen cover on the Adam cd? Bowie's "Rebel Rebel" leaps to mind, not least because I saw Adam's Letterman performance on an HD TV last week and the lyrics are extremely appropriate. The HD camera is cruel to Mr. Lambert.
Sales are experted to be 250,000, approximately.
Meanwhile, Adam Lambert's "For Your Entertainment" is also outperforming sales expectations, despite-or perhaps because of-the risque performance he turned in at the American Music Awards on Sunday, Nov. 22. Label and distribution sources project that "For Your Entertainment" could sell about 225,000 units in its first week.
But there is another album that will debut with north of 600,000 copies sold:
#1 with a bullet
That's f*cking ridiculous.
Does she sing another f'ing song besides I Dreamed A Dream? On everything I have ever seen her on she has done that damn song. I think the CD must be 10 of the same track.
LOL JG2...the idea of the Susan Boyle CD makes me want to stick a fork in my eye.
The one other song she did sing, she failed at it.
BTW, nice avatar, Dan.
My mind just seriously is boggled with the idea that 600K people wanted that CD.
I'm not even going to bootleg it. It's not even worth THAT.
Yes, and this board represents the entire demographic of the purchasing public.
I was thinking of buying the Susan Boyle CD for my mom as an add-n Hannukah gift. Though that it is not an edgy or interesting purchase, it is a purchase. It is not an illegal download, a bootleg, or a shared file. It is a purchase.
Who knows, maybe more people listen to Adam's music, but more people are buying Susan Boyle's.
I personally find Adam nothing more than a gimmick with a decent voice. There does not seem to be anything authentic about him. I honestly think the whole AMA thing was calculated. But again, that is just me, and who knows, I could be wrong. Clearly, he speaks to others in a genuine way.
And, for what it is worth, Boyle's CD has 4.5 stars on Amazon, Lambert's has only 4 stars.
Updated On: 11/29/09 at 06:36 PM
What's scary is how many of us will likely end up with that CD as a holiday gift because it's "Broadway" themed.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Um, you should be happy for it, your undying Madonna support would indicate YOU should be gifting the Boyle cd for the "You'll See" cover alone.
I just threw up in my mouth a lot.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
I'm pretty sure Live Nation is going to be very pleased to get some Madonna income off the Boyle cd. They need all the help they can get to break even on her. Seriously.
Not with those tour sales.
And Glee.
I'd love to see the song list of the Boyle cd.
Boyle covering a Madonna song reminds me of that hysterical skit they did as a regular feature with Will Ferrell on the keyboard and Ana Gasteyer singing her operatic rock tunes. I forgot their names on the show. They were so funny, I'd wet my pants laughing.
Oops I crapped my pants!
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/13/06
I'm not shocked about Susan Boyle's numbers. One, safe Christmas gift. Two...the audience for that are not illegal downloaders.
Oh, and Shakira's new album does EVERYTHING you want a pop record to do.
I don't want to disagree with this, but I'm a ridiculous Shakira fan and I was pretty disappointed with She Wolf. Because it doesn't do everything I want a Shakira record to do, all I can hear is how hard she's trying to pander and be that EVERYTHING pop record. I eventually did warm up to it, but my first listen was an immense disappointment.
Wanting (and, conversely, not wanting) to like something can have a huge effect on whether you actually do. I wanted to like Adam's CD, and I do. I understand all the critiques, but it's not like criticisms are universal objectives. If my Pop Lizard Brain were more discerning and logical I wouldn't simultaneously find If I Had You the absolute worst and most enjoyable song on Lambert's CD.
Updated On: 11/29/09 at 07:30 PM
I just remembered the name - the "Mohans"
YWIW's post made me realize -- you have to consider, I think, that a large part of Adam's demographic is the younger, free music bootleg-downloading group, whether they can't afford to spend the money on CD's, don't feel like it if they don't have to, or are just lazy.
I'll admit (and I know this is awful), I usually download my music or get it from friends -- but I bought a copy of Adam's album because I legitimately wanted to support what he's doing. It's the first pop album I've bought in years. Not that I listen to that much pop/remotely mainstream music to begin with, but the point still stands.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
"... all I can hear is how hard she's trying to pander and be that EVERYTHING pop record...."
That's exactly what I heard both times I listened to Lambert's disc, Craww. Along with the nagging sense that a committee was cobbling together the project and Adam was just one small ingredient in some sort of science fair experiment: "Building Profits through Pop Product" or something.
I think maybe the reason I didn't get the same feeling from She Wolf was because Shakira has "It," the whatever it is that makes somebody an actual star. Adam doesn't.
Oh, also totally agree with Craww's last paragraph (I think we were posting at the same time). I was excited about the album, I wanted to like it, and I do. And while I recognize that a lot of it is downright ridiculous, I also find it totally irresistible.
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
You know, there actually are people who like to hear people like Ms. Boyle sing - songs they recognize with a melody that they can understand the lyrics to.
Contrary to popular belief, people don't stop buying past the point of recognized relevance. In fact, as the world devolves into faster speeds and ever-diminishing returns on investment, there are those who cling even harder to that which they recognize.
Her sales don't surprise me a bit - and I hope it brings satisfaction and happiness to those who are written off as unwashed, uninspired and uninvolved.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/13/06
That's exactly what I heard both times I listened to Lambert's disc, Craww.
Fair enough. It didn't bother me on Adam's CD because pandering was what I was expecting. For me, there's a certain refreshing openness to his calculation. All of these mainstream pop acts (especially coming from Idol) are working with that same committee, but Adam's excitement and willingness about working with that calculated group of Pop Hitmasters makes it seem strangely genuine. So, for some people, he's cast himself as the oxymoron of the Sincere Salesman. An open gambit that becomes part of the pitch.
That cobbled together aspect is his shot at eclectic. It's more the former than the latter, but I do think it represents him well and that he's present in the collection. But it's just a pop CD. You can't really argue their merits too deeply because so much does rely on what you call the It factor. Or on pure likability. And those things are the most subjective aspects of artistic performance.
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