Adults and mature teens only- no obnoxious, stupid people allowed- Page 17

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 12:14pm

I only took that phrase out of context so as to make the quote shorter. I read every word you posted on this topic.

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 12:52pm

Sorry if this has been addressed (honestly I've only skimmed this thread), but how would an "adult board" even work? How would the age limit be enforced, and moreover if the issue is maturity rather than age, what determines who should be able to post on this theoretical board? There are plenty of threads on the OT board that seem to be populated mainly by adults, and just doing a quick glance-over of page 1 on most days, I don't see that many threads that seem heavily offensive to more mature members of the board. There seems to be a lot of mature discussion going on at any given point in ime.

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 12:57pm

I don't think a quick glance over of page one on most threads is enough to let you know what's going on.

Also, if you do more than skim this thread I think you'll find many suggestions on how the adult board would work, including no criteria other than the ability to keep up with it!

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:01pm

Why would anyone want to do that, Jane? They might actually be able to proffer an informed opinion!

I would like to make a motion that anyone who enters into on ongoing discussion by admitting that they have not read the previous pages of the discussion should be banned immediately.

[Elphaba]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:02pm

or at the very least forced to perform the fish-slapping song from Spamalot, naked in front of Laura Bush

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:03pm

LOL, thanks Kringas! Also, skimming the first page of any given thread and deciding it's free of jacking?

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:05pm

I couldn't tell if she meant the first page of a thread or the main page of the OT board where all the threads are listed, frankly.

Since we're aiming for pie in the sky, I'd also like a "Writing with Coherency" board, but I realize the chances of that are even more slim than those of an adult board.

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:08pm

that's asking too much, Kringas.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:24pm

That will never happen.
Which is one of the more unfortunate truths we have uncovered here.

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:25pm

Ah, but we can dream, smartyp. We can dream.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:30pm

I find it odd, and slightly sad that I in just the few pages of this thread I have gone from incredulous and nearly antagonistic toward an adult board to a wholehearted endorser who wishes to see it immediately.

[bdwaygirl]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:35pm

Unfortunately, we have no idea how Rob feels about the whole thing, since he hasn't voiced his opinion. In the end, he has the final say.

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:36pm

Well, this thread has really exemplified why people want one. I think this thread has seen some of the board's best "adult" posters and the some of its worst "non-adult" posters.

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:46pm

I meant Page 1 of the Off-Topic board, and you're perfectly right that I didn't address the issue of otherwise normal threads being threadjacked for conversation other than the intended purpose, which I'm sure is a problem.

Anyway, I do apologize for not having read the thread completely before posting (as is never a wise thing to do), but the first 10 pages of this one are taken up by posts essentially asking, "Do you mean me?" There's since been serious discussion of how another board might work, but there still doesn't seem to be much agreement about how it should be implimented (strictly age limit?, serious discussion?, password protected?). In any case, I admit that it was stupid to have made an ill-informed post before an in-depth reading of the rest of the thread.

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 1:58pm

It's understandable, sweetsiren, but sometimes you have to wade through the crap to make an informed opinion. And again, that's sort of the point here. This thread was started to discuss the possibility of a place where the more "mature" individuals could post, and it was immediately overrun by children (and generally immature ones at that).

Does adulthood automatically equal maturity? No. Of course not. The circular problem is that there's clearly a demand for something some of us aren't getting, and yet what we're all wanting isn't necessarily the same, and as of yet no real clear solution has been forged. That doesn't mean all this is for naught, though. It is possible that something productive may come out of this, even if we haven't yet figured out what that is.

[theatrebabe]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:06pm

"Last time I ever post my opinion on anything. Well done, guys."

Ew. I'm not going to take back anything I said except for that. Sorry. It was whiny and I know it. Forgive me. It was late and I had had a looong day.

Sorry to skip back like that. Carry on.

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:14pm

Carry on.

Thanks ever so much. Your contributions have been invaluable.

[liotte]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:19pm

Kringas, I was thinking the same thing.

Theatrebabe, you know I love you and think of you as one of my BWW little sisters. However, overall, your repetitive posts in this thread have been the kinds of things I would like to avoid by having an adult board.

Not just to you, but comments like "carry on", whining about people attacking you (which I did defend you for earlier), asking "are you talking about me", adding *hugsz* when people are sad, etc., are not the kinds of things I want to read about in the middle of a serious discussion.

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:22pm

I'll add that I never want to read *hugsz* under any circumstances.

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:23pm

Clearly my post was a perfect illustration of the fact that age doesn't necessarily equate to posting maturity, given that I'm an adult and still managed to make quite a bad posting decision.

Anyway, having since truly caught up on the thread and the different perspectives, it does seem that you're all making progress by at least bouncing ideas around. The only problem that I see is that, for those who want more serious discussion, I'm not sure that they'd necessarily get that on an adult board that's regulated by age (particularly if that also entailed more lax restrictions on content). It seems to be a sort of inescapable phenominon on any message board that thought-provoking threads nearly always get buried by more banal ones. Updated On: 2/19/06 at 02:23 PM

[liotte]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:26pm

Siren, if you've read through this thread, we decided that a Serious Topics board is better than an adult board. It would be self regualting, perhaps with flags so posters who were not following the guidelines could be deleted/banned. If a teen can keep up with the discussion and contribute, they are welcome to participate. Similarly, if an adult is writing crap, they can be removed from the discussion.

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:29pm

Well, it still seemed that there were some dissenters who wanted an adult board that wasn't just for serious topics, but just general discussion. The serious topic idea sounds like it would satisfy a lot of people, though. Updated On: 2/19/06 at 02:29 PM

[SallyBrown]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:47pm

I thought the purpose of another thread for adults was for the purpose of keeping the children out? Or have there just been too many different opinions on what an adult board should be?

[jasonf]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 2:56pm

Has anyone pmed Rob to see if he's watching this discussion?

[CostumeMistress]

Posted: 2/19/06 at 6:41pm

Some ideas:

-Creating a system by which members could flag inappropriate posts/posters, similar to what is present on AIM (this was mentioned earlier in the thread by someone else).

-Creating a board system in which new thread topics would have to be approved by a mod before they went on the board. This would eliminate Hairy Toes threads, and if a poster was repeating a topic, the mod could guide said poster to the topic's existing thread. This would require some work and possibly a new mod position.

-The finding of a separate, non-BWW venue for the adults who enjoy each other's company here to mingle. This venue would be passed on by word-of-mouth, thus keeping out any unwanteds.

This discussion (creating an adult board) was had before the Student Board was created. I think the fault of the Student Board is that its objectives were unclear. My understanding is that it was created to appease those who felt too much young presence on the boards, as a place for younger folks to hang out. It's morphed into the Giant Audition Board 'O Headaches, Where Starry-Eyed Threads Go To Die. And, to my view, its creation has not appeased anyone nor solved anything.