Another Voter ID Law Bites the Dust

It seems a bit odd that you need a ID to get a library card and that seems to be no problem. Do not get why it is so hard to get ID for voting. It is indeed a puzzlement. Kind of negates the justification for voting. You enact a law because people want it and one person comes along and negates what seems to be the will of the people. Oh well, it is not the first time and will not be the last. It is things like this that validate my decision not to vote. Why bother if these types of things happen. This year I simply refuse to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. I could go in and pull a blank ballot to show my disgust and I may do that instead of not showing up. This way I have done my civic duty. Cue the brickbats and name calling

Updated On: 8/2/16 at 10:31 AM

Mr Roxy said: "It seems a bit odd that you need a ID to get a library card and that seems to be no problem. Do not get why it is so hard to get ID for voting. It is indeed a puzzlement.

Let's see. Photo IDs cost money. In my state, a driver's license costs $24 and a state-issued ID card costs $12. That might not seem like a lot of money, but to many, that's money that needs to be spent on food, diapers, or rent.

Photo IDs require documentations like original birth certificates, social security cards, high school diplomas, passports, etc. Many people -- especially older, minority citizens -- don't have access to these documents. An 80-year-old black person from the deep south, born during Jim Crow segregation, may not even have a birth certificate.

Photo IDs require a trip to the DMV. That means going to the DMV during business hours and waiting for as long as it takes. Not everyone has that luxury. That wait might mean losing your job.

There's also the matter of getting to the DMV. If you don't have a car, then that means walking however far or trying to utilize public transportation, if it's even available. If you've lived in New York City your whole life, it may surprise you to learn that not every town has 100 different trains and bus routes that can connect the most disparate neighborhoods.

So, there is no puzzlement. It is hard to get identification because systems are put in place to make it hard. And voter ID laws are designed to disenfranchise a vulnerable minority on the false claim that voter fraud rampantly occurs.














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Liza's Headband, if you're really interested in the data, I suggest you read "The Truth About Voter Fraud," issued by NYU's Brennan Center for Justice. It's not a short read but it is very worthwhile. The Brennan Center itself has probably the most comprehensive data on so-called "voter fraud" around. The report I mentioned can be found at this link: http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%20Truth%20About%20Voter%20Fraud.pdf

Here's the Cliff's Notes, though: Justin Levitt, who is probably the most knowledgeable scholar of this issue in America, claims to have found 31 cases of voter fraud since the year 2000. 31 cases out of 1 billion + votes cast.

$25 for ID in Florida. When I lost my DL about 15 years ago the ID cost $3. Why am I not surprised that Roxy can't identify with the impact $25 can have on a poor person. Also sir, if you can't see the waves of voter ID laws as a way to restrict poor people from voting then you're part of the problem. Selective ignorance does not make for a good voter anyway, so by all means stay home in November. Making it hard for poor people to vote is another in a long series of anti patriotic things you seem to be in favor of.

AC126748 said:Photo IDs require documentations like original birth certificates, social security cards, high school diplomas, passports, etc. Many people -- especially older, minority citizens -- don't have access to these documents. An 80-year-old black person from the deep south, born during Jim Crow segregation, may not even have a birth certificate.

So, there is no puzzlement. It is hard to get identification because systems are put in place to make it hard. And voter ID laws are designed to disenfranchise a vulnerable minority on the false claim that voter fraud rampantly occurs.



"true. I think if you are a resident you should be able to vote too, not just citizens should have these rights as long as you have official ID








Kad said: The Second Amendment is a lot less clear about the right to own firearms than the *numerous* clarifications about the right to vote for all adult citizens.





"Yes, very true.

Updated On: 8/2/16 at 01:32 PM

yankeefan7 said: "To be honest with you how do people survive today without a photo ID. For example, you need one to travel by airplane, paying bill by credit card sometimes requites photo ID and buying liquor and or cigarettes can require a photo ID. "

Many people do none of those things. Regardless, there should be no cost, none whatsoever, to vote. Any cost at all is the equivalent of a poll tax, and disproportionately impacts the disadvantaged.

There's so much waste and fraud in the government. I'd agree there is at least one less-than-worthy program currently receiving funding that should be ended, and transferred over to a free Voter ID program that could be done by mail or online. No more financial burden - No more logistical burden. Done.

It's still abridging the right to vote to require specific forms of ID to vote, which is unconstitutional.

And not everyone qualifies for absentee ballots.

The NC voter law only allowed driver's licenses, state ID, passports, military/veterans cards, or tribal enrollment cards as valid forms of ID. This is far, far more strict than what is even required to register for a driver's license in the state. People can, and do, use other forms of photo ID in their lives.

The law allowed for a free ID card for the specific purpose of voting, but that still required going to the DMV and bringing necessary documentation.

Updated On: 8/3/16 at 02:26 PM

so how do you prevent people from voting twice or voting if they are not allowed too if you do not need ID? I honestly am asking,

I've always been of the mindset that election day should be a national holiday, thus ensuring more accessibility.

One of the mind boggling crazy things about our America that Mr. Roxy may not understand. The patriot, give me a break!