Bain-Gate: Romney to Speak on CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN and Fox — Page 3

So one side has The Boston Globe, Mother Jones and Talking Points Memo. The other side has Politifact, Fortune, the Washington Post, ABC News and the Columbia Journalism review.

But each side is making a different point and saying the other side has not refuted it.

It's like JoeKv asks if it's going to rain today.

FindingNamo says "The grass is green" and Romantico says "No, the sky is blue!"

So Namo retorts "But Romantico still has not admitted that the grass is green!" To which Romantico reptorts "Namo has yet to come up with evidence that the sky is NOT blue!"

And then they each gather experts who agree with them--but no one tells JoeKv if it's going to rain today. After a while, Joe gives up on his question and the issue of whether or not it's going to rain gets dropped.

Here's what Politifact is saying (boldface is mine):

None of the SEC filings show that Romney was anything but a passive, absentee owner during that time, as both Romney and Bain have long said. It should not surprise anyone that Romney retained certain titles while he was working out the final disposition of his ownership, for example.

The original is-it-going-to-rain question was actually NOT "When did Romney stop making operational decisions at Bain?"

The question was "Was Romney involved with Bain's outsoucing and forced-bankruptcy actions?" That question has gotten lost. But even as a passive and absentee owner, he was probably agreeing with them. He was certainly making a lot of money as absentee owner, and he certainly was NOT saying "Stop the outsourcing! Save American jobs!" (To be fair, neither was anyone else in the business world.)

So the question to everyone should be "With unemployment as bad as it is right now, would you vote for the passive absentee owner of a company that outsourced jobs and forced companies into bankruptcy?"

And the question to Romney should be "How much money did you make as a passive absentee owner during those years when Bain outsourced American jobs and forced American companies to go bankrupt?"

That's probably why he doesn't want us to see those tax returns.

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Updated On: 7/15/12 at 11:59 AM

I dismiss it because both have been proven to make false statements. People just assume if you throw the word "FACT" into your website that you are never wrong. Rachel Maddow has had issues with Politifact for months now. Republicans have mocked Maddow for this. That is until they themselves find something they disagree with from the same website.Here is Rachel making her case.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-politifact-you-are-fired

So, since Factcheck has said things that are untrue regarding both parties I can't trust them. Then again, there are those people who trust them ONLY WHEN IT SUITS THEM AND MAKES THEIR ARGUMENT. These people can not be taken seriously.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/rachel-maddow-politifact-zombies_n_1508860.html

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Updated On: 7/15/12 at 12:37 PM

"John McCain Looked At Romney's Tax Returns And Decided Palin Would Be A Better VP"

OUCH! The worst insult yet!

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rahm-emanuel-john-mccain-looked-at-romneys-tax-returns-and-decided-palin-would-be-a-better-vp/

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No Miss Congeniality for him.

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Mr. Romney - Please describe your idea of a perfect date.

What happens?

Jeb Bush.

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Ron Paul lurks.

So, I'm hearing Romney is going to be quick to name his VP as early as this week in hopes to take attention away from his scandal(s). Will it work?

Meanwhile, Conservative Pundits Wonder If Romney's Hiding Something In Unreleased Tax Returns. Gee, ya' think?

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/conservative-romney-taxes-returns-hiding-something.php

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Updated On: 7/15/12 at 06:04 PM

Romney Suggests Releasing Additional Tax Returns Could Be Politically Damaging

"ROMNEY: The Obama people keep on wanting more and more and more. More things to pick through, more things for their opposition research to try make a mountain out of and to distort and to be dishonest about. We're going to put out two years of tax returns."

AN HONEST Person would have NOTHING to hide.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/16/519241/romney-suggests-releasing-additional-tax-returns-could-be-politically-damaging/

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Oh and if Romney makes it through the convention, he IS the nominee. I don't think there is any way to remove him. If he dies or steps aside, the RNC meets and appoints a replacement. Moving into the realm of total fantasy, Romney could ask to address the convention and tearfully say he cannot serve and release his delegates. That would allow the convention to pick anyone they liked to run on the Republican Ticket.

Realistically, Mitt is going to try to distract America with his big shiny VP pick- probably in the next week. He will make a surprise announcement and try to change the subject. If he manages to get Marco Rubio or some other Tea Bag, he might just do it. It'll be up to the DNC to keep asking about Bain.

(And isn't it funny- Bain is ALSO the name of the villain in the new Batman movie. Interesting.......coincidence?)

If however Mitt picks a "Game Changer" VP- like Condi Rice (No way) or a moderate that is insufficiently appealing to the Baggers- I think THEN you'll see the idea of a Tea Party candidate being floated by the rightwing gasbags. And if that happens, man, is this fall going to be fun!

Since Romney won't release his taxes, one can only speculate.Saw this and thought it was rather interesting. A very plausible scenario. Of course, theories like this will be repeated until Romney releases his taxes. The story won't go away til then.

"They will show that he was a legal resident of Utah when he voted as a Massachusetts resident. All of the other possibilities will be politically damaging for a short period of time but they are nothing he can't overcome. The possibility of being shown as a person who committed voter fraud is a killer."

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Ding-ding-ding!

That's why you are seeing such tepid endorsements. The Republican convention is going to be all about Obama- that is something they can get passionate about.