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#75House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:11pm

Where can I find a list of the Democratic congresspeople who voted against repealing?

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#76House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:30pm

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00281

No democrats voted against the bill.

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#77House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:35pm

In the house they did...

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#78House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:49pm

WV Senator-elect Joe Manchin looked like a sure No Vote (not that it would have made a difference if Byrd had lived since his homophobia was pretty well-known), but he decided to spend his first weeks to not vote either way and blew off the votes for a Christmas party.

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#79House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 1:07pm

ACL- Here is the list for the house. 15 Dems voted Nay, but the list doesn't include party.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll638.xml#N

Edit: It seems the Republicans are in italics, Democrats are not.

"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert
Updated On: 12/19/10 at 01:07 PM

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#80House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 3:35pm

Thanks, singtopher!

"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body

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#81House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 6:11pm

When people like Gaga tweet that ""this is a triumph for equality after 17 years" she doesn't know what she is talking about. This is the end of 200 hundred years of discrimination. Before DADT, they DID ask, they did actively search out and discharge service members. Bill Clinton tried to completely end the ban, but realizing it wasn't going to happen, he got what he could, and that was DADT. It was a (very tiny) step in the right direction, not some horribly oppressive policy. Things were FAR worse before DADT.

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#82House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 11:00pm

Sorry, Sheldon, but history doesn't back up your scenario. Though the Dems intentions might have been honorable back in the 90s, it did more harm than good. The rate of discharge went UP after DADT was enacted.

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#83House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/19/10 at 11:05pm

Bill Clinton was heavily pressured by (whom? anyone?) the Human Rights Scampaign into saying he would sign an executive order lifting the ban. And the backlash began.

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#84House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/20/10 at 12:20am

Actually, Sheldon is right about one thing: some of the folks thrown out because of DADT were given "honoourable discharges", depending on the circumstances of their accusation. Before DADT, that would have been impossible: they would have gotten dishonourables, with no chance to appeal.

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#85House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/20/10 at 12:47am

I was discharged in 1986 for admission of homosexuality (in their terms,) and I received an honorable discharge. It wasn't an impossibility.
Updated On: 12/20/10 at 12:47 AM

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#86House of Representatives Votes to Repeal DADT
Posted: 12/20/10 at 1:49am

If that is true about discharges going up after DADT, then I stand corrrected. All I really meant is that many young people today seem to think that DADT was some awful step backward, rather than an (ultimately unsuccessful) attempt to move in the right direction.

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