DADT Repealed- Page 3

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 6:38pm

According to ABC News, the Pentagon could take 3 months to a year to "roll this out". What are they "rolling out"?

[SeanMartin]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 6:46pm

Here's where the real shell game begins.

First, the president, the JCs, and a few others have to "certify" that the repeal wont "impact the function of the military during war time" (which, these days, seems to continue on into perpetuity, but anyway). Then there's a sixty-day period in which they think about how they're going to do all this. *Then*, there's anywhere from six months to a year of implementation.

And during any of that time, the ban can be reinstated.

But it's nice to see the US finally dragging itself into the 20th century.

[Q]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 7:18pm

At the risk of making Roscoe implode, Maddow states that
"this is the President's victory."

[Plum]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 7:38pm

Just giving a shoutout to the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, whose employees must be over the moon today. :)

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 8:59pm

Congratulations are in order.

Updated On: 12/19/10 at 08:59 PM

[madbrian]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 9:10pm

I remember reading an article a few months ago that the potential repeal of DADT could lead to other liberties, like DOMA being throw out by the courts. The military is very egalitarian, but DOMA would allow them to deny things to spouses of gay or lesbian like medical coverage or housing. That won't sit well with the courts.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 9:52pm

How does Goth feel about this?




Must suck to be him.

[Q]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 9:56pm

mad - that's exactly right. Which is why, contrary to what some might feel or express, this really IS a very important step - one that could have many and far-reaching ramifications.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/18/10 at 10:35pm

I just can't believe Dan Choi totally mistimed the breakdown. He must've thought this wouldn't happen for years.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:06am

Question - does this mean that all the gays and lesbians who have been dismissed foe being gay can be reinstated now?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:08am

I think Dan is cured. He's been quoted ad nauseum in the past few hours. At least now he no longer has to shoulder the burden of being the face of DADT and go now go back to just being an average, ordinary, anonymous citizen.

[SeanMartin]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:30am

>> Question - does this mean that all the gays and lesbians who have been dismissed foe being gay can be reinstated now?

Not now. Nothing's official. After the roll out, perhaps, but I doubt the Pentagon has much of a clue what it's going to do.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:50am

This is a victory, first of all and last of all, for lesbian and gay servicemembers.

But credit will be taken by all sorts of people we may think don't deserve it, from Joe Solmonese and the Human Rights Campaign to Dan Choi to the junior senator and centerfold model from Massachusetts to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and Joe Lieberman and President Obama.

And you know what? They're all entitled to take credit. Each and every one of them. Because this is politics and, as they sing in Evita, Politics IS the Art of the Possible. They all put their bets on saying it was possible--and whether we feel they did anything to make it happen or not, they won.

They win. The lesbian and gay servicemembers win. And the country wins.

The only loser is John McCain.

[Kad]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:58am

It's amusing and unsurprising to me that this isn't the main headline on The Drudge Report- rather, the lunar eclipse is.

[siny]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 1:29am

"The only loser is John McCain."

John McCain looks like he is going senile. And I am being absolutely serious. He does.

[wendilin622]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 1:47am

Maybe its the optimist in me (or the fact its 145 am and I'm home from the bar and feeling pretty good right now)...but I believe that this could be a major stepping stone for the gay community. Once America sees that this doesn't "ruin the military" or whatever other crap they were saying....maybe this will pave the way to get rid of DOMA and other forms of discriminatory legislation.

And John McCain needs to go away. The man has made me lose every ounce of respect I had for him after he lost the Presidency. His comments on the floor of the Senate today made no sense. They were completely incoherent. I'd feel bad for the man if he wasn't such a DB.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 1:48am

He must be. He's spent the past two or three years pretty much contradicting everything he said and did before then, so if he's not going senile he's just a liar and a dbag, and I don't think a professional war hero can be a liar and a dbag, can they?

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 4:21am

People are congratulating Reichen on all of his hard work and success in ending DADT...

[TulitaPepsi]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 5:04am

I'm delighted to be too old to be drafted.

[madbrian]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 8:46am

At the end of the day, John McCain is nothing but a sore loser. He fought the Bush admin in their early days, not because he was a maverick, but because he lost to Bush in the primary. And he's abandoned any sort of principles he might have had to fight Obama at every opportunity.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 9:42am

People are congratulating Reichen on all of his hard work and success in ending DADT...

Like I said, everyone is going to take credit.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 9:52am

The issue is discrimination, open bigotry aimed at a specific minority. Make no mistake, this is an important civil rights victory. I can't feel much enthusiasm for it, as I can never understand the motives of those who want to put their lives on the line in services of Big Oil Companies, and to participate in the active oppression of others overseas. Just think, gay folks can openly participate in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo. As Bill Hicks once said on the issue: "Anyone dumb enough to join the military should be allowed in."

This may of course pave the way for greater equality in other matters, as the issue of partner benefits (among others) will doubtless come up, which I'm sure will be fought tooth and nail by the Fourth Reich.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 11:21am

Leave it to Roscoe.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 11:45am

Roscoe, the guy who wins $1,000,000 but bitches about the amount of taxes to be paid.

[singtopher]

Posted: 12/19/10 at 11:59am

You're enjoying your day, Everything's going your way....