Drum roll please...Results so far.. re: Adults ONLY Message Board- Page 6

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:19am

The "kiddiness" is too extreme a lot of times for me, too.
Which is exactly WHY I don't want all the 'adults' leaving.
Again, Selfish, I guess.

And, Gov, you made some excellent points that I did not even think about.

[Plum]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:23am

The "kiddiness" has died down a lot, actually. And if you've been on the board for more than 2 weeks, you should be able to avoid it pretty easily. Does it hurt people so much to look at thread titles involving Wicked that they feel they need to make a whole board as a sanctuary from such abuse?

And I'm sure Jose' would be happy to moderate the Adults-only board. It'll be the easiest job in the world. After all, since when do the always-mature adults here need any moderating? Updated On: 2/23/05 at 01:23 AM

[etoile]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:25am

Again this gets back to my point that people are reading what they want to see, not what is posted.

No where did I state the board would be created to protect kids from pedators. No where. I was referencing an earlier post. The one where someone asked whether there were adults who prey on children here. The response was that, "It just seems to be a common internet paranoia."

I'm of the belief that it is not paranoia. I'm of the belief that there have been a few that have exhibited characterists of those who prey on message boards. One who I suspect posted a recently as yesterday.

And Plum, where anywhere did people post that they wanted a place for X-rated discussions. In fact, I thought the very first post of this thread addressed something different. Like this,"It would NOT be a pornographic site."

Or am I just reading what has actually been written?

[Plum]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:28am

I'm just stating the only good reason I see for separating the adults from everyone else here. X-rated discussion doesn't belong where there's kids- so if people want to talk about that stuff, give them a place to do it.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:29am

No, I dont smoke, and I like having people buy my drinks for me :)

I just strongly feel that forums should be free & I know that it takes little to no extra effort to set up invite only forums as opposed to general forums so I cant see the point in paying. Ive moved my own personal forums many many times just to avoid $10/year.

Whether or not an adult forum would appeal to me here isnt even entering my argument... Ill let the others battle that one out.

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:29am

"I'm of the belief that there have been a few that have exhibited characterists of those who prey on message boards."

And my point is that making an Adult-only board would not stop this, if it is true. The predator would not join the Adult message board where there are no youths. So making an Adults Only message board, in theory, would leave the "kids" over here on the OT board with only them and the "predator" and no "adults" around.

If someone is set on preying on a kid, then why would they leave where the kids are?

(This conversation creeps me out )

[CurtainUp2]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:29am

Actually, the whole idea of an "Adults Only" board strikes me as a rather childish suggestion.

Updated On: 2/23/05 at 01:29 AM

[musicalmjk]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:29am

it seem a good idea in theory but look at the adult themes discussed in such plays and musical that are on broadway, Rent brought a large number of children of the 80's and 90's to the world of broadway. I may not be spouting out pointless threads daily but when i post i always try to make a point and respect others, we may have different opinions about shows, but having an adults only message board seems like a terrible idea segregation. Seperate but equal doesnt work have you read your history. One could walk into a show and see nude preformers, I recently saw Metamorphoses by Zimmerman, and the show starts off with bare breasts. Ave Q, discusses sex and other adult issuse and its brought a diverse audience, just today on collegehumor.com i saw that they had a link to the song the internet is for porn. I know people will download it and laugh maybe even go and get the OBCR, i dont know. the conversations arent all explicit on these boards, but they are here to provide a place for people with a common intrest to go a discuss random things. with the reading between lines, if you really want to you could read in between the lines of the bible and think that its a smut ridden book. or watch a g rated movie and think its rating should be changed. People perceptions are all different. Some teens are more mature than some adults i know. it leads to something that was discussed in my Victorian Poetry class today who is a better parent the mother or the father? some will say mother other will say father, they both love the child. we teens and adults love the boards and we need each other to help us appreciate it better. Good idea, really dont think it is necessary since this is a Broadway board, and look what's on broadway stuff for the little ones and the older ones. Also the seperation of the old and young wouldnt be the best. Assuming that the adults wont be interacting with the teens. and etoile is right you decide what you read on post about. As Captain Planet said "The Power is Yours"

[etoile]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 2:38am

Shaking my head.

Where did anyone say that an adult posting in an adult only thread would also not be on the other two boards? Where did that come from? Yes, I know some have indicated they would no longer want those adults to mingle, but I don't believe they have the authority to bar them from the other boards. I don't believe adults would leave the other boards. This would just be an additional board.

I don't think predators would join an adult only board...unless they wanted to continue the ruse that they are just one of the guys. But time and time again people, especially the young, have been warned about internet dangers and have chosen to ignore those warnings. It's not my responsibility to monitor anyone's activity but my own. I've grown weary of saying something when I've noticed a concerning moment that needed addressed...only to see it fall on deaf ears. I'm not of the belief that it takes a freaking village. I believe in parental responsibility, something sorely lacking in the life of may younger posters. I find that very, very sad.

An adult only board would not, could not, and is not designed to stop internet predators. That's not or has ever been the point. My point is, and has always been, that the belief that such predators on this board is viewed as a paranoid fallacy, But the myopic opinion of a few towards one poster (José) is not seen as paranoia. I find that interesting.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 2:49am

I really don't see where people are getting this "internet predator" notion. Am I missing something? The original post didn't say anything about protecting minors from internet predators, just keeping them away from more adult-oriented discussion. How did Net predators come into the mix when regarding the Adult Only board???? It seems to be a moot point.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 2:56am

I agree, Tiff. I have absolutely no idea where the internet predator thing came from.

[bongoboy]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 7:16am

i've been trying to keep out of this due to jose's request for a yes or no answer to his poll. he know's my vote is yes...but not just for a separate chat. i'd pay extra for a bww "premier" membership that would give me access to special services that the site had to offer..i.e. advance notice and ticket buying opportunities to shows & concerts, better graphics for blogs (not sure that i'd personally use that) and yes...a chat room where one does not have to worry about putting an asterisk in the word f*ck.

that said, i understand members frustration at the possibility of being "excluded" from something. it sucks being excluded and the funny thing is that it sucks even when you might not know or care about what you're being excluded from. Updated On: 2/23/05 at 07:16 AM

[amasis]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 8:34am

"Would you be willing to pay a nominal amount, annually, to access an Adults ONLY BWW message board? (...)

There are plenty of boards out there that offer adults the opportunity to discuss "world and life experiences" without charging a fee. Often they are related to a certain profession, which is probably why -without them being specified as "adults ONLY"- they tend to get very few young visitors. But the point is, there are plenty of these available for free.

I don't imagine the "world and life experience" related discussions being too different whether they take place on an adult-only board or on the OT board. If the point is that right now you might get some annoying or inappropriate comments here and there, that kind of behavior doesn't have an age limit; I've seen them coming from the over-30 crowds as well.

I don't think setting an 'Adults ONLY' board would be taking anything away from the current set-up, but I don't think it would add much of anything, either. So, no, I don't see why it would be worth it to pay for something like that. Updated On: 2/23/05 at 08:34 AM

[JeffG]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 9:07am

Or, Jose could start his own message board and invite whoever he likes to participate. It's not like the internet is a finite space. Why does this site have to have another board. I think it's amazingly considerate that Rob and Craig and everyone that moderates this site even have an off-topic board to begin with. Any discourse about theater isn't in fear of being 'adult' and anything off-topic within guidelines could be discussed on the other board. If something is questionable (and hello, if we are adults) we would and should know not to post such material here. If not, you truly aren't a mature adult, but rather, immature and trying to get away with something.

Lastly, adding another board is about as logical for the reasons discussed as adding a webcam porn site or a seperate board to discuss automotive maintenance. If you want those things, they exist elsewhere. I defer to my original comment that I think it's great that this site even offers a place to discuss things non-theater related amongst the friends we have made here.

[bongoboy]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 9:43am

jeff, it's not just amazingly considerate of rob and craig, but also smart. they listen to us and whenever appropriate, they'll implement excellent suggestions. if they don't like it, c'est la vie.

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 11:27am

Well, etoile, my major problem is not seeing why Jose' would want this for any reason but to have a forum where he doesn't have to listen to the opinions of those he deems too "young and immature"
I may be wrong, but I see his saying that he wants to protect the younger folks from vulgar content as nothing more than an excuse to exclude a portion of this board from contributing to discussions.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 12:09pm

Priest, you keep taking the words right out of my mouth.

[Plum]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 12:45pm

I've given this a little more thought, and you know what? Those of you who would rather not associate with the kiddies probably aren't the type I'd want to talk to, anyway. So go ahead, folks. I have no reservations. Make your "adult" board and be done with it- the rest of us will keep hanging out here. :)

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 12:48pm

That's what I've been saying, Plum! Come on, let's make our own board of egalitarians, where some are more equal than others.




Fine then. I'll play in my sandbox all by myself.

Updated On: 2/23/05 at 12:48 PM

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:29pm

I'm still confused about the predators...

[Plum]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:32pm

There's nothing about predators. Papalovesmambo made a sarcastic comment about it and it ballooned into something else.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:35pm

Well etoile certainly made it seem like our lives were in danger.

[Plum]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:36pm

Consider it a tangent off the main topic of the thread.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:37pm

Well I know it's obviously off topic, I didn't need to be told THAT...I'm just wondering if there's any truth behind it. I guess it doesn't really matter...

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 2/23/05 at 1:40pm

Why don't I ever have predators?! Dammit.