Ellen's Emotional Plea- Page 6

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:38pm

No, I don't think you are. I don't really think you have any idea how this works at all.
Updated On: 10/16/07 at 11:38 PM

[LaurenB]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:39pm

I remember being stopped by the cops twice, LOL, once for speeding, and once for illegal parking. In both instances, I did not get a ticket. I broke the rules (The Law), and by rights, I could have been ticketed. But I wasn't. I was issued a warning in both instances. Both times the policemen used their judgment according to the situation. I walked away with a greater respect for the police than if I had been ticketed. Law enforcement bent the rules according to the situation. It's called judgment, and it is expected in their job.

We all are in positions daily where we must use our wisdom and judgment. Ellen broke the rules, there is no denying that. But it seems to me that the reaction of the rescue was particularly strident. Just my opinion. Their primary concern is for the well-being of the animals. But somewhere along the way, they have forgotten the human component - in this case, the children who had bonded with the dog. If the law enforcers of our land can use their best judgment according to the situation, why can't Mutts and Moms?

Mutts and Moms have now found themselves in the center of a major cluster-fX. This could have been avoided by exercising some judgment and bending of the rules. I would have done so, even if the rule-breaker was just your average Joe and not a PIA celebrity. People do make mistakes, but let's not make a federal offense out of it. And why punish the children for Ellen's mistake?

Had they been smart, they could have turned this incident into a real win-win, for their rescue, and used Ellen's celebrity for some kind of fund-raising or rescue awareness. But I think egos got in the way. Just my opinion...

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:40pm

Well, maybe Ellen's cynical bawl-fest will make that happen now. Then we'll all feel great.

[Craww]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:41pm

cooperross, you are an idiot.
no I am a realist.

I think both sides are wrong. As usual.

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:43pm

oh believe me I DO know how it works..just reference all of the stories you see on the news about the recluses with 50+ animals who are arrested in houses in filthy conditions..animals sickly or rotting corpses..a good percentage of them started out as "rescuers" but somewhere down the line, they believed they were better at caring for the animals than anyone they could possibly adopt them out to.

Or revisit the link I posted earlier about the cats in Pahrump, Nevada..600 cats.

Updated On: 10/16/07 at 11:43 PM

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:45pm

Had they been smart, they could have turned this incident into a real win-win, for their rescue, and used Ellen's celebrity for some kind of fund-raising or rescue awareness. But I think egos got in the way. Just my opinion...

They're getting more fund-raising and awareness for their organization by publically clashing with Ellen instead of actually working out a solution beneficial for all parties.

Updated On: 10/16/07 at 11:45 PM

[supportivemom]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:47pm

I saw this clip on one of those entertainment shows while I was working out. I didn't have the audio on at the time so when I saw the visuals- I thought her mother had died. She was crying so hard!

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:55pm

"They're getting more fund-raising and awareness for their organization by publically clashing with Ellen instead of actually working out a solution beneficial for all parties."

I think it will backfire on them. I'm sure they are already getting enough hate email to crash their servers.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:55pm

Who thought airing this would be a good idea? It's so mawkish.

[JohnBoy2]

Posted: 10/16/07 at 11:56pm

Perhaps Ellen's phone was broken, and this was the only way to get her message to the animal shelter?

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:03am

it's not an animal shelter..they are run by the state, county or city governments.

it is a private non-profit rescue organization. and they, btw, mostly rescue animals hours away from "the needle" by city shelters. But even they are selective. they get the fees waived if they are a legal non-profit org, at least in L.A.

[Chita1933]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:07am

Is it possible that some of these "organizations" are in it for the money?*

*just a question.

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:10am

I would doubt that..as a lot of them are 1 or 2 people operations at best with a network of "volunteers" or friends. There are larger ones but really..with the costs of animal care and feeding..there really isn't a lot to be made.

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:22am

well looks like Mutts and Moms has pulled their Petfinder page...
oops

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:25am

Who would blame them? And I believe I mentioned that earlier. Why should they have to listen to a bunch of hysterical ninnies?

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:26am

they're the hysterical ninnies that started it

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:31am

You sure are right, coop! When they went on their tv show and started sobbing like a banshee, they... eh. Come on!

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:32am

they called TMZ and the cops first..and held the dog hostage for 2 hours until the cops showed up.

Here's hoping the Pasadena Humane Society shuts them down and someone sues them for every last dime.

Updated On: 10/17/07 at 12:32 AM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:38am

Oh, god, stop with the suing and the lawyering. Jeeez.


Ellen Has More to Say!

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:42am

why? their contracts are legally unenforceable..all someone has to do is challenge it.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:47am

This a thread that could use an appearance by Jilani.

So now they are saying that there wasn't any big hassle when she got the dog. Does that indeed mean that rules were bent to accommodate Ms. DeGeneres? Did she do a little dance and show them her AmEx commercial and get them to "make an exception"?

The plot is thickening. Coop, how are you holding up?

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:48am

still saying the rescue folks are 100% wrong in the way they handled the situation.

Updated On: 10/17/07 at 12:48 AM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:49am

Cool. I'll see your mishandling and raise you a cynical, mawkish and misguided.

[cooperross]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:54am

Rescue groups should legally have no more power or methods than how the city in which they do business handles animal adoptions.

And the only way they should be able to remove an animal, once placed, is if there is evidence of abuse or neglect.

[JasonM12480]

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:58am

I think it's a complete act of childishness and immaturity for Mutts and Moms to have removed their website from the internet. Grow up. Stop trying to protect yourselves. Did Ellen make a boo-boo? Sure. She's admitted that and done her share of "mea culpa" to last a lifetime. Her heart was in the right place, and the animal agency over-reacted - PERIOD. Ellen is not bullying anyone, and using her fame and "power" to do anything. She is one of the few celebrities that has managed to stay out of a negative spotlight for the majority of her career, and done nothing but good and made people laugh. Regardless of what anyone says, I'm a fan, and hope this whole mess ends quickly and so that all parties are happy. I'd be curious for someone at TMZ or one of those stalkerazzi websites to obtain a copy of the contract and to post the exact verbage in the "contract" she supposedly signed.