#201
Posted: 1/18/05 at 3:25pm
So, which actor/actress has the most GG nominations? Anyone know?
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#202
Posted: 1/18/05 at 3:35pm
You know, at some point you should realize that your opinion just doesn't jive with what everyone else thinks and just leave it go 
I mean, if I can't bash 'Lord of the Rings' at every turn ...
(I imagine Meryl Streep has the most nominations by the way. Just a guess based on the fact that she's always there being nominated for something.)
I mean, if I can't bash 'Lord of the Rings' at every turn ...
(I imagine Meryl Streep has the most nominations by the way. Just a guess based on the fact that she's always there being nominated for something.)
#203
Posted: 1/18/05 at 6:00pm
I loved the LOTR movies very much, and you shouldn't bash them.
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#204
Posted: 1/19/05 at 2:16am
Munk, I'm surprised that you bothered sitting through Ray twice! But at least you found the second screening more moving than the first.
I'm giving Foxx a break about incorporating race into his Golden Globes speech for several reasons:
1) Because he won the Golden Globe for his performance in a film that's fundamentally about transcending racial oppression while still recognizing it, race is more likely to be at the forefront of his mind when accepting this award than it would've been for Johnny Depp or Leonardo DiCaprio whose films are about class - which is currently perceived to be a "non-issue" by so many.
2) Never having received this kind of recognition before, he's liable to do a few embarrassing things. Perhaps if his rise to critical acclaim had been more gradual, he would've learned a few things about appealing to multiple demographics through his self-presentation.
3) The ways in which African-Americans think about race are as much informed by people of other backgrounds as it is by them. Arguably, the press and the public interpreted Foxx's success on racial terms long before he imagined he would win this Golden Globe. This widespread consciousness can be difficult - perhaps even impossible - to escape. Ultimately, it feels natural for many African-Americans to think of their success in terms of race or skin color.
I'm not saying that it was appropriate or inappropriatee for Foxx to bring up race. It's just important to remember that he isn't the only person framing his success on those terms.
I'm giving Foxx a break about incorporating race into his Golden Globes speech for several reasons:
1) Because he won the Golden Globe for his performance in a film that's fundamentally about transcending racial oppression while still recognizing it, race is more likely to be at the forefront of his mind when accepting this award than it would've been for Johnny Depp or Leonardo DiCaprio whose films are about class - which is currently perceived to be a "non-issue" by so many.
2) Never having received this kind of recognition before, he's liable to do a few embarrassing things. Perhaps if his rise to critical acclaim had been more gradual, he would've learned a few things about appealing to multiple demographics through his self-presentation.
3) The ways in which African-Americans think about race are as much informed by people of other backgrounds as it is by them. Arguably, the press and the public interpreted Foxx's success on racial terms long before he imagined he would win this Golden Globe. This widespread consciousness can be difficult - perhaps even impossible - to escape. Ultimately, it feels natural for many African-Americans to think of their success in terms of race or skin color.
I'm not saying that it was appropriate or inappropriatee for Foxx to bring up race. It's just important to remember that he isn't the only person framing his success on those terms.
#205
Posted: 1/19/05 at 2:57am
My perception of Foxx's GG speech (which I LOVED) was that he was referring to his agents/manager's? struggles. I'm not up on the agents and managers in the business, but what percentage are black? I would guess low. I would guess that Foxx and these men saw this success as a triumph over some struggles in the business. We don't know what those are--but I gathered that was a personal aside that he was completely allowed to express in HIS speech.
And, I forget which thread someone tried to make the comparison that a white actor wouldn't go on about being proud of being white, but let's be real--we are far from a truly equal society for all people. We've come a long way, but there is much work to be done. And let's not be naive that racism doesn't exist--even in the mostly liberal film and theatre communities. Black people and Brown people and Gay people and many other types of people are still in a place where those adjectives ARE a difference when others make it a difference. And when you have to fight the fight on those adjectives, the successes are also about those adjectives.
It's not to belittle what a straight, white person goes through in life--it's just that aside from rare cases of reverse prejudice, a straight, white person doesn't have to fight based on his (and somtimes her) adjectives.
And, I forget which thread someone tried to make the comparison that a white actor wouldn't go on about being proud of being white, but let's be real--we are far from a truly equal society for all people. We've come a long way, but there is much work to be done. And let's not be naive that racism doesn't exist--even in the mostly liberal film and theatre communities. Black people and Brown people and Gay people and many other types of people are still in a place where those adjectives ARE a difference when others make it a difference. And when you have to fight the fight on those adjectives, the successes are also about those adjectives.
It's not to belittle what a straight, white person goes through in life--it's just that aside from rare cases of reverse prejudice, a straight, white person doesn't have to fight based on his (and somtimes her) adjectives.
#207
Posted: 1/19/05 at 7:09pm
so where was SJP on the GG's?
i don't necessarily think that terri deserved to win for Desperate Housewives. Felicity Huffman is hilarious. Terri is funny... i just didn't feel it... Debra Messing should have been nominated (i don't think she was) and she should've won! has she won any?
i don't necessarily think that terri deserved to win for Desperate Housewives. Felicity Huffman is hilarious. Terri is funny... i just didn't feel it... Debra Messing should have been nominated (i don't think she was) and she should've won! has she won any?
#208
Posted: 1/19/05 at 7:25pm
Maybe Debra Messing wasn't nominated because her role was minor this season, due to her pregnancy.
#209
Posted: 1/19/05 at 8:08pm
she was nominated... she was against all 3 housewives and i can't remember who else... she lost it to teri... she's definitely due though for a win!
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#210
Posted: 1/19/05 at 11:03pm
I saw "Jack" on the TV red carpet before, and someone gave him a shirt that said "0 for 24". I think that Will & Grace deserves some wins, but becuase it is a show that has been on so long... and Desperate Housewives is the new show of the season, I don't think the chances are very high. But I hope that they win something because it's ending...
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