Hillary Clinton — Page 2

I know a bunch of white women who voted for Trump, friends and family, and it has been a strain on relationships. All of them say they would have considered Bernie. Isn't it time we ask ourselves that even if someone is a genius, has all the credentials to be the best we've ever had, but is unliked because of whatever, let's call it familiarity, or inevitability, or need to change. She spoke on NPR about never running again but speaking out. I have no problem with that I hope she follows the youth. I'm glad she acknowledged the things she did wrong (especially Wall Street speeches). It's weird and it still hurts, and remains unbelievable. I don't think the old man is the savior but I do think he gets where the future lies, and I firmly believe that the health care issue is where all the argument will lay. Voter suppression that is so key.

South Florida said: "As usual the German has contributed the best comments to this thread. She lost to Donald Trump and got over half of the white woman vote after he was caught on tape. Yet, people still think that there wasn't an overall Clinton dislike that extended into Independent ranks. No, it was the Bernie hard cores. Give me a break.

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Yes, there were people who disliked Clinton for both appropriate and inappropriate reasons. As qualified as she was, she was polarizing. It's been almost a year and we've been thru all this again and again and again and again. So what's your point in wanting to go thru all this yet one more time? What new analysis do you seek? What new nuanced interpretation of what happened do you hope to add to the discourse? I know your whole dream of getting a big pile of free stuff with Bernie as president was dashed when Hillary had the audacity to grab the nomination from him and you can never forgive her for that, And now she's written a book and is doing a few talk shows. She's hardly all over the place and is easy enough to avoid with minimal effort. So why the need to start juvenile threads like this?

Or is it about the money. No matter what you want to call this juvenile or whatever. This loser lost to Donald Trump, face it. What further utility does she have to people who hate the status quo? Like Erik mentioned there's a lot of finger pointing Comey, Bernie, The Russians, etc.. How bout the obvious, you were the worst.

It seems like if just one of the factors was removed (e.g., FBI reopening; Sanders swingers; third party voters; systems that allow someone to lose with more votes!; Russian interference) Hillary could have won. I guess it does make little sense to blame it on one individual thing. I find the idea that someone can get more votes but still lose very puzzling though. It just seems undemocratic.

henrikegerman said: "If there had to be one major culprit for "what happened," it would be the damn Electoral College."

YES

South Florida said: ""Your apparent belief for losing to Trump she should be made to retreat to a cave and never be able to appear in public again is just so ignorant, so incredibly idiotic, it represents a low water mark even for you."

Really, I don't think so, she lost to Donald Trump. That represents the low water mark for our Democracy and for that she should crawl into a cave. Anyway, why don't we have her top the ticket again. I bet she wins next time."

That's the fault of idiotic voters who let Donny Johnny appeal to their worst tendencies, not hers.

And the HELL you're not misogynist, South Florida.


Every single candidate writes a book but it's the very sight of Hilary you find completely untenable. Eff off and don't look at her. Those who find value in her smart and informed opinions will glean what they will from her. You're really kind of pig if you go back and look honestly at your posts in this thread.

You must be thinking of someone else. That's a question I was never asked.

Clinton/Schumer 2020.

PalJoey was triggered by this thread! Away he goes again. Haha!

"and I wish she did win if it was her vs Trump"

If?

"when they weren't representing the people that vote for them"

You mean the African American women who are the backbone of the Democratic party who voted for Hillary nearly across the board, except for Stacy Dash? Or do you mean the white women college graduates who vote the way their aggrieved white husbands vote because it's just easier?

FrankieSay said: ""and I wish she did win if it was her vs Trump"

If?

"when they weren't representing the people that vote for them"

You mean the African American women who are the backbone of the Democratic party who voted for Hillary nearly across the board, except for Stacy Dash? Or do you mean the white women college graduates who vote the way their aggrieved white husbands vote because it's just easier?"

True but not the whole story...
Weaker Democratic support in Detroit, Flint made Trump stronger in Michigan

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Traditional Michigan Democratic voters in inner cities such as Detroit and Flint helped President Obama win his second term in 2012, but didn't pack the same punch for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Republican Donald Trump remained a whisker ahead of Clinton Wednesday, Nov. 9, -- 48 to 47 percent -- with 99 percent of all precincts in the state counted.

Unofficial results show Clinton couldn't come close to Obama's performance four years ago in areas of the state with the highest percentages of black voters, including metro Detroit -- Wayne, Oakland and Macomb counties.

Those counties accounted for 37 percent of the state's overall vote Tuesday, Nov. 8, and 55 percent went to Clinton. Obama took 69 percent of the same region's vote four years ago."

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/detroit_flint_voting_muscle_we.html

And....

Black voter turnout fell in 2016, even as a record number of Americans cast ballots

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/12/black-voter-turnout-fell-in-2016-even-as-a-record-number-of-americans-cast-ballots/

Updated On: 9/22/17 at 08:30 AM

She got 3,775,437 more votes than Bernie and 2,864,974 more votes than Trump.

But enjoy how he and his Supreme Court make the world "not-so-conservative" anymore.

You bitches got the president you deserve.