#1
Posted: 1/29/08 at 2:08pm
Hillary Clinton on LGBT Teens
#2
Posted: 1/29/08 at 2:13pm
and that's why she doesn't support gay marriage: cause "we value you as a total person"
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
#3
Posted: 1/29/08 at 2:13pm
Is there a vid or article with Obama answering this question?
The rain we knew is a thing of the past -
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
#4
Posted: 1/29/08 at 2:14pm
Where's the whole interview?
"Writing is like prostitution. First, you do it for love, then you do it for a few friends, and finally you do it for money." ~ Moliere
#5
Posted: 1/29/08 at 2:19pm
It does cut off very suddenly.
The rain we knew is a thing of the past -
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
#6
Posted: 1/29/08 at 2:24pm
and that's why she doesn't support gay marriage: cause "we value you as a total person"
Why do you ask, touchme? Does Obama support gay marriage?
Why do you ask, touchme? Does Obama support gay marriage?
#7
Posted: 1/29/08 at 2:27pm
Oh, heavens no. Obama, like Clinton, says that everyone should have the same rights, but we should have a gay drinking fountain (civil unions) and a straight drinking fountain (marriage). Separate but equal, you know?
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
#8
Posted: 1/29/08 at 3:47pm
Well, then, I guess she's the only presidential candidate talking about the pressures facing LGBT youth.
#9
Posted: 1/29/08 at 3:49pm
Probably a big My So-Called Life fan.
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#10
Posted: 1/29/08 at 3:52pm
Speaking of My So-Called Life, Namo, did you hear that Wilson Cruz is a recipient of one of this year's GLAAAAAAAAAD awards?
#12
Posted: 1/29/08 at 5:59pm
Well, to be honest, Clinton didn't really "speak" about this, she answered a question about it. I haven't heard her talking about this at rallies.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
#13
Posted: 1/29/08 at 7:16pm
That makes her STILL the only presidential candidate talking about the pressures facing LGBT youth.
#14
Posted: 1/29/08 at 7:22pm
A school JUST for gay teens? Those things exist??
I mean, Denzel Washington? Gun to my head..of course.
#15
Posted: 1/29/08 at 7:28pm
The Harvey Milk School in New York run by the Hetrick-Martin Institute:
The Hetrick-Martin Institute (HMI), Home of The Harvey Milk High School, believes all young people, regardless of sexual orientation or identity, deserve a safe and supportive environment in which to achieve their full potential. HMI creates this environment for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning youth between the ages of 12 and 21 and their families.
Through a comprehensive package of direct services and referrals, HMI seeks to foster healthy youth development. HMI's staff promotes excellence in the delivery of youth services and uses its expertise to create innovative programs that other organizations may use as models.
The Hetrick-Martin Institute (HMI), Home of The Harvey Milk High School,
The Hetrick-Martin Institute (HMI), Home of The Harvey Milk High School, believes all young people, regardless of sexual orientation or identity, deserve a safe and supportive environment in which to achieve their full potential. HMI creates this environment for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning youth between the ages of 12 and 21 and their families.
Through a comprehensive package of direct services and referrals, HMI seeks to foster healthy youth development. HMI's staff promotes excellence in the delivery of youth services and uses its expertise to create innovative programs that other organizations may use as models.
The Hetrick-Martin Institute (HMI), Home of The Harvey Milk High School,
#16
Posted: 1/29/08 at 7:31pm
So I watched it, PJ--perhaps she's the only candidate speaking of it, but what's this about her supporting NY 'mos? Did I miss something? If she can't outwardly support us in NYC, why would you think she would for the US?
And I also recall Bill vowing to repeal DADT in the military, which also didn't happen...
What I really think is this: She really supports us very strongly, but won't say it. Just like Bill. And Mitt. And all those other candidates who work with gays every day in DC and their respective governments.
Now, she may not be the devil incarnate, but she is not the candidate for me. And I will be working for both Edwards and Obama to insure she isn't the candidate for the Dems either.
And I also recall Bill vowing to repeal DADT in the military, which also didn't happen...
What I really think is this: She really supports us very strongly, but won't say it. Just like Bill. And Mitt. And all those other candidates who work with gays every day in DC and their respective governments.
Now, she may not be the devil incarnate, but she is not the candidate for me. And I will be working for both Edwards and Obama to insure she isn't the candidate for the Dems either.
#17
Posted: 1/29/08 at 8:11pm
Well, she's been there for Hetrick Martin. And I think she DOES outwardly support NY mo's.
#18
Posted: 1/29/08 at 9:30pm
Somehow I never feel Hillary's passion. This just looks like a careful attempt to portray herself positively to a niche audience. She should go to an all black church in Georgia and talk about how we need to treat our "gay brothers and sisters" better and then maybe I'll think she's a little more brave to talk around such an issue.
yr ronin,
joey
joey
#19
Posted: 1/29/08 at 9:40pm
Has Obama done anything for GLBT youth?
#20
Posted: 1/29/08 at 9:51pm
Don't know, you can do your own research, but I did find this with a google search:
http://www.bilerico.com/2007/11/obama_talks_gay_rights_on_mtv.php
Let me just say that I could care less whether or not the government forces religious groups to perform a religious ceremony for everyone instead of who they choose to do so for.
http://www.bilerico.com/2007/11/obama_talks_gay_rights_on_mtv.php
Let me just say that I could care less whether or not the government forces religious groups to perform a religious ceremony for everyone instead of who they choose to do so for.
yr ronin,
joey
joey
#21
Posted: 1/29/08 at 9:58pm
Yeah I have that. Several friends sent it to me after the Donnie McClurkin betrayal.
I meant has Obama said anything specifically about gay teens. I find nothing.
I meant has Obama said anything specifically about gay teens. I find nothing.
#22
Posted: 1/29/08 at 10:05pm
I was just glad to hear someone in her position speaking of it without mentioning the god or the bible.
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#23
Posted: 1/29/08 at 10:12pm
I don't know, but we could sit here and argue about the tiny differences in LGBT policy between the top three democratic candidates or who did this and who screwed that up all we want. Maybe he's just never been asked. What is the context of the Hillary interview?
A google search didn't reveal much of anything for Hillary either, besides references to that video.
A google search didn't reveal much of anything for Hillary either, besides references to that video.
yr ronin,
joey
joey
#24
Posted: 1/29/08 at 10:22pm
And if he gets the nomination, I will vote for him, but I will never ever believe in his sincerity on lesbian and gay issues because of the way he sucked up to that horrible homophobe Donnie McClurkin.
I will never forgive and forget that, even if I vote for him.
I will never forgive and forget that, even if I vote for him.
#25
Posted: 1/29/08 at 11:50pm
How did he suck up to the guy? The way I understand it is that he didn't even know who the guy was until the controversy started. His campaign put McClurkin in the program. Then he turned around and put a gay minister on the ticket right away and directed McClurkin not to spread his hate speech. It was a misstep, but Obama's voting record, actions, public statements and expressed views are consistently pro-GLBT and have been for years before McClurkin ever happened. The man has risked votes for his views.
I just feel like it's making a mountain out of a molehill. Hillary and Bill have made missteps too, bigger ones, when it comes to the gays. What politician hasn't. Obama's campaign management accidentally put an ex-gay gospel singer he didn't know anything about in a concert. Big whoop.
I just feel like it's making a mountain out of a molehill. Hillary and Bill have made missteps too, bigger ones, when it comes to the gays. What politician hasn't. Obama's campaign management accidentally put an ex-gay gospel singer he didn't know anything about in a concert. Big whoop.
yr ronin,
joey
joey
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