Many analysts agree that corporations attempting to use this ruling as case law for future arguments against both critical and necessary medical treatments (ie. blood transfusions, antibiotics, cancer and HIV treatment, etc.) will lose. Scalia was quick to address this hypothetical scenario in his ruling.
I would imagine the four methods of birth control not provided by Hobby Lobby to its femail employees are critical and necessary to the women that now have to pay for them out of pocket.
"So there you have it, Hobby Lobby loves women, except if they need certain medications. And it is okay to cover Viagra for men."
Viagra is used for men with prostate cancer. I know that facts don't matter to you, but there you have it. I'm sure you would want breast cancer drugs covered.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
Yeah, you rarely hear about the people who use it for cancer treatment. Which in that case, it should for that. But, just to make you better in bed, that's ridiculous if they aren't going to cover these contraceptives. It's also a bit hypocritical from the religion view point since they mostly promote sex as an activity to have children and it is supposed to be a natural process.
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Rush Limbaugh had plenty of Viagra with him when he was on his alleged sex tour of the Dominican Republic where, it is assumed, he had sex without consequences. He, like all men who "don't want their taxes" paying for contraception are really just into social control. Of women. Specifically.
I've been sad to see some of my younger women friends on social media JUST realizing that they are second class citizens in this country.
I'm sorry that a cancer drug has turned into a sex drug. It happens. It's difficult to buy cough syrup now because kids use it to get high. But that doesn't make it any less valuable to those who honestly need it.
And PalJoey, those statistics are meaningless. Men generally are embarrassed to talk about health issues and many don't even realize they have a problem. Liberals have hammered women's health issues and gay health issues for so long (this thread being an example) that men's health issues receive zero awareness. If gay men would scream as loud about prostate cancer as they have about HIV, perhaps your silly statistics would be more reflective of the true story about men's health.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
"Viagra is used for men with prostate cancer. I know that facts don't matter to you, but there you have it. I'm sure you would want breast cancer drugs covered."
And women use birth control pills for more than just birth control, you racist, homophobic, sexist ass.
Pill perk #1: Lower cancer risk
Taking oral contraceptives (OCs) can slash your risk for both endometrial and ovarian cancer by more than 70 percent after 12 years; even just one to five years may lower your risk by 40 percent. They work by reducing the number of times you ovulate in your lifetime: Ovulation may trigger cell changes in the ovaries that can lead to cancer. If you're worried about using the Pill for too long, relax. "You can safely take the Pill for 20 years or more," says Stephanie Teal, M.D., director of family planning at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center in Denver. Barring health issues, the only reason to stop is if you want to get pregnant.
Pill perk #2: Clearer skin
Estrogen - the female hormone found in most OCs - helps clear your skin by decreasing levels of testosterone, a male hormone that stimulates oil production. Although Ortho Tri-Cyclen is often used to treat acne, many pills, such as Yasmin or Desogen, can banish blemishes. You'll likely see results within a couple of months.
Pill perk #3: Lighter, less painful periods
When you're on the Pill, you don't ovulate, so your uterine lining doesn't build up as much. In fact, you don't have a true "period" during the placebo phase - just withdrawal bleeding, in which your uterine lining breaks down in response to the drop in hormones. So most OC takers bleed less for a shorter time, and have little or no cramping. If you want an even lighter flow, ask your doctor about Seasonique, a new pill that gives you four periods a year and helps reduce period length to three days on average.
Pill perk #4: PMS relief
Hormonal shifts during the second half of your cycle are the main cause of PMS symptoms. The Pill can provide relief by steadying hormones, but different symptoms require different pills. If breast tenderness is your complaint, an OC that is lower in estrogen (such as Mircette) is your best bet. If you want to beat bloating, try a pill (such as Yasmin or Yaz) with drospirenone, a progestin shown to help prevent fluid retention. "Use the Pill for three to four months to see if it provides the relief you're looking for," says Pelin Batur, M.D., a women's health specialist at the Cleveland Clinic Independence Family Health Center.
Pill perk #5: Endometriosis relief
Endometriosis, a condition in which uterine-lining tissue grows in other pelvic areas, can lead to scarring, severe pain, and sometimes infertility. The Pill stops the growth of tissue in other areas by reducing the hormones that cause the lining to build up.
actually, the implication that men's health has received less attention than women's is a joke.
at this time, for benign prostatic hypertrophy, there are four classes mechanistic drugs (i.e., four drugs that address the issue on a very basic science level).
with regards to hot flashes, currently there is nothing at all and the advice is literally keep cool.
if men suffered from menopause, you can rest assured that this would not be the case.
to be clear, sildanefil and its cousins are not used to treat prostate cancer per se. they are used for individuals in whom there has been damage to the perineal nerves during prostate removal, where impotence is a known side effect. and even if these pills do not work, there are still alternatives (i.e., prosthetics, pumps).
and if the government is now spending some extra money on the health of men who happen to be gay, that is only the beginning of the amends that are owed to the gay community for allowing thousands of individuals to contract and die of HIV by withholding critical information and blocking research on the absurd grounds that the virus was a punishment from the divine. there will never be enough expatiation for this nasty behavior in my lifetime, and one can only regret that some individuals who are growing old with the virus will die of other causes without hearing the hint of an apology.
At the risk of defending Goth, it is true that most insurance plans (including Hobby Lobby's) do not cover Viagra. Whether or not it's used for prostate cancer, I don't know, but as an under 40 man who has had cancer of the testicular region twice and a whole host of related issues down there due to it, I can tell you that not one of the three insurance carriers I've had in the time I've been dealing with my cancer (and my post-cancer life) will give you a red cent for Viagra. And most don't.
But but but... all that said, I don't think birth control (up to and including Plan B, et al) shouldn't be covered. It shouldn't have to be an either/or thing. And I'm not for one second trying to imply that because of this there's no inequity between coverage for men and coverage for women. But the "Viagra is covered while _______ isn't" is a mythical talking point that I wish would be eradicated.
In case you missed it, the floodgates have already been opened, as any intelligent person knew they would. Ginsberg's dissent was right on the money...
"The day after handing down the Hobby Lobby decision on Monday, the court issued orders pertaining to six pending cases in which employers claimed religious objections to all contraceptive services required under the Affordable Care Act. The court either ordered appeals courts to reconsider their rejection of the employers' claims in light of the Hobby Lobby decision, or let stand lower courts' endorsement of those claims." Danger Signs
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^I love that. It means that if we're really the great Christian nation a certain subset of the country thinks we are, then anyone who has had a mortgage for more than 7 years should now own their homes outright!
I do remember when Viagra first came to market a lot of men were complaining that they were limited to four or six of the expensive pills a month by their insurance carriers. I remember a good deal of "How can the insurance companies tell me how much sex I can have?" stuff. Things must have changed since then.
Maybe they had one of them "Cadillac" plans. I wish insurance covered 4-6 a month. Or that we'd see a generic any time in my still-sexual years. As it stands, it costs me $10 every time I want to have an orgasm. I could just never understand their reasoning that it wasn't "medically necessary," since this started in my mid 30s and not my 70s. I used to counter with, "Well, in vitro isn't medically necessary, but you pay tens of thousands dollars to help my co-workers get pregnant." But infertility in youngish people is a medical problem and impotence ain't. Also, every plan I had that didn't cover Viagra DID cover birth control.
But again, I think just about everything (and I'm talking beyond reproductive medicines) should be covered. Even WITH insurance, I have spent tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket due to medical expenses in the past five years. I stopped keeping an exact count, but three years into cancer-pallooza, I had already spent more than $20,000 out of pocket. My out of pocket costs every three months for routine scans to make sure the cancer hasn't returned again are usually around $2000. There's nothing like surviving an illness that could kill you only to find yourself crippled by medical bills that will probably never end for the rest of your life. Sometimes when I think of what I could have spent my money (and to be fair, a lot of it was my parents' money, because they really stepped up to help me when the sh*t hit the fan, medically) instead of funneling thousands and thousands of dollars into my healthcare, it makes me crazy!
Also, I realize by bringing this up I've offered myself up to mockery by, well, probably just one person. Not that I care, but I just thought I'd do a preemptive doucehe strike.
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